Well fellows, what can I say. I'm still struggling. Especially with the manipulation of the razor. (At least I'm not hacking myself up as much.) I know they say it's a long slow curve but I have to admit to second guessing myself, on a number of fronts... for example... is it the razor? (New/used that came shave ready from Ronnie Brown.) I doubt it's that. I'm still no where near the job I can do with my DE. (I know, I know...) sigh... (About a month into it and it takes a great deal of time just to do a first pass.) Please tell me others experienced the same thing. I am not giving up though.