when i first got this old bokier from a forum member it was so sharp i'd cut myself just by looking at it. now i really have to work at getting any blood. and believe me, it's not due to some great technique i've aquired i assume i damaged the edge from stroping. i didn't think this would be such an ordeal to getting it back to proper shaving sharpness. it's close but it's just not there. my de runs rings around it