Another picture info post..

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05-07-2011, 05:46 AM
Nervin

Another picture info post..

I don't know if this belongs here or not, but I figured it would work here..

I shaved different sections of my face with three different blades, one dull, the next just after honing, and the next is fully sharpened and stropped to the "sweet spot" all three were WTG and then 36 hours later Macro shot the areas...

Here is the area where I had shaved with a dullish razor... I had actually used this one on my head a while back and hadn't stropped it... for those who straigh razor thier head know that a scalp will play havoc on a blade. Needless to say there was a lot of pulling and I did have to do a couple of passes too. There were several hairs that looked like this one in that area, torn, split and jagged. This area was also the reddest and stung the most when witch hazel was applied.:cry:

http://straightrazorpalace.com/membe...69117-dull.jpg

This next one is right after a blade that was honed on a norton 4000/8000 combo stone "Pyramid" style.. If you notice even though the cut on it is flat the end of the hair looks jagged, but there wasn't much irritation and I think the reason they were a little jagged is because a newly honed blade has teeth. :idea:

http://straightrazorpalace.com/membe...9116-honed.jpg

Now this one was done with the blade at the "sweet spot" Oddly enough it was a very clean cut... but when you see it you will know what I am talking about, I fully expected a flat clean cut or flatter.:hmmm:

http://straightrazorpalace.com/membe...sweet-spot.jpg

Now I know it is angled because it's a WTG pass...

Well I hope this info explains some things or is at least entertaining.
05-07-2011, 07:25 AM
dirtychrome

Thanks for the share. That appears to have took a ton of effort! Provides great appreciation of a good blade.

Not that I want to dispatch more work...but, lol. This being the beginner forum, it may be enlightening to view lower magnifiation image with properly honed and stropped blade with proper technique vs improper angle vs improper pressure or some such compare. :shrug:
05-07-2011, 08:26 AM
DLB

Thanks!

Very interesting and informative. Thanks for taking the time and giving the effort to share these with us. Deeply appreciated.
05-07-2011, 11:28 AM
hcintineo

that is pretty interesting. i've never seen a face that close up to be able to show hair like that, especially in the last picture. i guess the bbs shave we all strive for is just an allusion.
05-07-2011, 11:39 AM
ace

Next time you think you got a BBS shave, take a look at your face in a 10X mirror. You'll be surprised.

I too would like to see more of these photos from various pass angles and with different blade qualities.

I don't know either where this post belongs, but it sure belongs somewhere!
05-07-2011, 12:04 PM
AFDavis11

It looks to me like the razor is still not sharp enough, causing the whisker to be flattened on edge impact and then sheared sideways.
05-07-2011, 12:42 PM
ace

It might be nice to get some photos of the result after the blade is sharpened by one of our honemeisters.
05-07-2011, 03:12 PM
Nervin

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtychrome

Thanks for the share. That appears to have took a ton of effort! Provides great appreciation of a good blade.

Not that I want to dispatch more work...but, lol. This being the beginner forum, it may be enlightening to view lower magnifiation image with properly honed and stropped blade with proper technique vs improper angle vs improper pressure or some such compare. :shrug:

I have already started one of those. it's called confessions of a blade and I it's still ongoing..

confessions of a blade

After these projects and when my canon 5D mark2 comes in I will do a shave under magnification too...
05-07-2011, 03:14 PM
Nervin

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcintineo

that is pretty interesting. i've never seen a face that close up to be able to show hair like that, especially in the last picture. i guess the bbs shave we all strive for is just an allusion.

Well remember I waited 36 hours... I will do another right after the shave.. I figured that we could get a better perspective of what happens to the hair...
05-07-2011, 03:19 PM
Nervin

I will definitely be putting more pictures up with different angles and as my blade from confessions of a blade thread gets sharper I will get images from that one from now on.. I don't think i will shave with a dull one again though.. My face is red and irritated.. and the bad part is I can actually Dry shave even with a straight razor and not have this leve of irritation...

As soon as my canon 5D gets here I am also going to shoot Macro Video of a pass or two... but that's a little bit down the road.. I will keep this and Confessions of a Blade going for a while as they are research threads I have been wanting to do.. :thinking:

By all means though keep the suggestions comming.. I definitely can use the input..
05-09-2011, 05:59 AM
Nervin

ok.. a small update... For anyone who has ever done macro photography then you will know what I am about to talk about... When shooting at such a magnification the slightest movement will throw the images out of focus... with that in mind, I set up my gear and linked it to my laptop to capture and also so I can see what I am doing at the same time... Weeeeeelll it is definitely not as easy as it sounds when its on your face.:eek: and I was trying to be as careful as possible while making sure I stayed in the focus field (using a flip 50 is all manual focus)... I looked awasy for a moment and got knicked... was bad.. just a tiny nip, but anough for me to realize that it wasn't going to happen.. My wife is an autofocus only type person.. so I am going to try again tomorrow only I am going to use my arm... I will be able to lay my arm on the table and it wont move out of the field... I guess since I test my blades on my arm hairs anyway it can't be that much different.. I DO NOT recommend macro video of the face while shaving.. hahahahah..
05-09-2011, 09:11 PM
LarryAndro

Thanks for the photography details. (My original post here asked for photo details, and somehow missed the details right above. Embarrassing.)
05-09-2011, 11:35 PM
HNSB

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nervin

ok.. a small update... For anyone who has ever done macro photography then you will know what I am about to talk about... When shooting at such a magnification the slightest movement will throw the images out of focus... with that in mind, I set up my gear and linked it to my laptop to capture and also so I can see what I am doing at the same time... Weeeeeelll it is definitely not as easy as it sounds when its on your face.:eek: and I was trying to be as careful as possible while making sure I stayed in the focus field (using a flip 50 is all manual focus)... I looked awasy for a moment and got knicked... was bad.. just a tiny nip, but anough for me to realize that it wasn't going to happen.. My wife is an autofocus only type person.. so I am going to try again tomorrow only I am going to use my arm... I will be able to lay my arm on the table and it wont move out of the field... I guess since I test my blades on my arm hairs anyway it can't be that much different.. I DO NOT recommend macro video of the face while shaving.. hahahahah..

What you describe is exactly why I haven't pursued the shave cam any further. The depth of field is almost impossible to work with while moving, and to watch a monitor while shaving leads to nicks. Fortunately I sliced my thumb, and not my face.
05-11-2011, 06:34 PM
Nervin

Ok one small set back but hasn't stopped my research. First I would like to say that even though it gets a bad rap I like my mac 100%, and although there are very few viruses for it one found my computer. Sadly I got complaisant. I am doing a complete recover right now zeroing the hard drive then using time machine to put it back. Takes a little time but I should be able to put the images and video up that I captured this weekend. You guys will be surprised at some things I discovered.
05-11-2011, 06:34 PM
Nervin

Oh and an itouch is a great tool for when your computer is down
05-11-2011, 06:40 PM
hoglahoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFDavis11

It looks to me like the razor is still not sharp enough, causing the whisker to be flattened on edge impact and then sheared sideways.

I think that is just how a single shear cuts a whisker
05-11-2011, 06:41 PM
roughkype

I think this is a great thread. Good luck resurrecting your Mac. I look forward to your pictures.
05-12-2011, 12:05 AM
alexanderdurham

Wow! Those are amazing shots!
05-12-2011, 06:55 PM
Nervin

Alrighty.. I have a few images and two videos... I will make my comments at the end...

These two are examples of BBS.. This is actually what it looks like right after a shave..

http://straightrazorpalace.com/membe...e69455-bbs.jpg

http://straightrazorpalace.com/membe...e69453-bbs.jpg

these are 24 hours after a BBS shave

http://straightrazorpalace.com/membe...bbs24hours.jpg

http://straightrazorpalace.com/membe...bbs24hours.jpg

Here are two small videos

This is a pass or two or three with a Dull blade..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QslTFpJ-SNY

This one is a simple WTG pass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk0eAbvSots

Now if you are keeping up with my confessions of a blade thread there is some pretty good info there about the microteeth on the blades edge and how important they are.. I have a few more blades that I am restoring so I will probably experiment a little more and hopefully I will be able to get some other videos Like ATG and XTG with and even sharper blade... Can never strop too much...
05-12-2011, 09:15 PM
ace

Wonderful stuff! I can almost hear the whiskers screaming. Keep 'em coming!