Build a moist Lather question?

Hi

Just trying to sort out what I need to add or my lather to improve my Straight Razor shave
Only had about 10 full shaves so no real experience to draw from yet

After warm shower, apply hair conditioner to growth - left face wet
Brush - pre warmed soak in hot tap water during shower

Lather consists of :

Fauldings Shave Cream - about 1/2" long dollop from tube
Lloyds Shave Cream - Lavender Scent

Mixture lathers up quite well IMO, nice thick layer
After first WTG pass, feels OK

Re-apply lather and second pass XTG razor seems to not glide so easy
Some grabbing felt during this pass, stropped razor about 20 strokes
Did not seem to help much
Razor felt like it wanted to stick and grab a bit

Got a few nicks as well, nothing serious
Just got my attention focused sharper again. lol

Any thoughts or suggestions much appreciated

Cheers for now

Rick

If your razor is sharp, then maybe a preshave oil would help. It sounds like your lather is just fine and unless it is dry should not be causing the tugging you feel. Others may have better suggestions to your situation.

I would guess your razor is not optimally sharp. Subpar edge may be acceptable WTF, then show its faults on subsequent XTG or ATG passes, leading to the kinds of problems you describe.

BTW, 10 shaves in may be a little premature to do anything but WTG and practice technique.

Try a wetter lather. And you should test your shaving creams for performance, some creams/soaps tend to have their best slickness lathered thick, some needs to be a lot wetter to perfom the best. Start with a fairly dry brush when you lather, then rub some between your thumb and index finger to check the slickness. The gradually add more water and test each time, after a while you should be able to tell if the cream likes a lot of water, or not. :)

Could be the lather, could be the razor (especially if you've stropped it and are a relative beginner) but it's most likely your technique.

As mentioned above, try a little more water to your lather. Your post suggests your just mixing two products. Add 1/2 tsp. of water to your mix...and a few drops as you go until you have what you need...

If your WTG pass is good but your XTG pass is 'grabby' it's not your lather, it's your technique. XTG should be much easier due to the reduced stubble; the razor should just glide along the skin. When starting out it is awkward to get the grip and movement down to do WTG, and the XTG motion takes even more practice. Keep at it, it will become natural before long.

Thanks for your input everyone
There seems to be a few things for me to work on

Certainly my stropping technique needs improvement
Still feels like it's not as smooth as it needs to be
I know - practice and more practice :)

I take on board my Lather making needs work
I'm still experimenting with what works and what doesn't

On pre-shave oils I am holding off buying one right now
I seem to have a problem with the oil I have now really killing off my lather
So looking to change one thing at a time and see what works

I know of a couple of Aussie SRP members not too far from me
May need to see if one of them can mentor me a bit
Something to work on anyways

Cheers for now
Rick

I misread your post as "How to make a maoist lather". You need a little red brush, a puffy quilted coat, and a hat with a red star on it.

Aha latherin...
Most of us can only shave once a day
BUT
Lathering ya can do that till your arm
falls off.

I would have you invest in a puck of Williams
and the Van Der Hagen Premium Shave Set (Soap, Bowl, Brush).
Grand total can be under $15 bucks.

Then take some time on alternating days and play.

Too much water, hot water, cold, too little.
Add a little at a time all in a big splash.
Too much soap, too little... this way and that.
Lather in the bowl, and on your palm.

After "learning" on Williams with a boar brush
your products will seem like magic.

For me it was perhaps the best $15 bucks I ever spent....

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Originally Posted by RickyBeeroun222

Thanks for your input everyone
There seems to be a few things for me to work on

Certainly my stropping technique needs improvement
Still feels like it's not as smooth as it needs to be
I know - practice and more practice :)

I take on board my Lather making needs work
I'm still experimenting with what works and what doesn't

On pre-shave oils I am holding off buying one right now
I seem to have a problem with the oil I have now really killing off my lather
So looking to change one thing at a time and see what works

I know of a couple of Aussie SRP members not too far from me
May need to see if one of them can mentor me a bit
Something to work on anyways

Cheers for now
Rick

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I experimented yesterday with a drop or two of 'personal lubricant' as suggested in one of the forums here and it worked a treat - much more glidey (?)
I used MFS, Frank's Finest brush and my latest razor yesterday and I want to shave again today, but I can't (no stubble and only one cut!!)
I hope this helps. PM me if you want to catch up, not that I feel qualified to mentor you, but some discussion could uncover a BFO FWIW
Geoff

Now that is a new one to me.

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Originally Posted by Grump

Now that is a new one to me.

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Here is the link, Grump.
http://straightrazorpalace.com/pre-s...pre-shave.html
It is an interesting discussion.

I just told SWMBO about Personal lubricant in shaving lather
She thinks I'm nuts ... She's right I'm gonna try it

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Originally Posted by roughkype

I misread your post as "How to make a maoist lather". You need a little red brush, a puffy quilted coat, and a hat with a red star on it.

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Which begs the question mate
would you trust one of those maoist types with a straight
Chances are they would use your blood for lather
Little commie mongrels

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Originally Posted by Havachat45

I experimented yesterday with a drop or two of 'personal lubricant' as suggested in one of the forums here and it worked a treat - much more glidey (?)
I used MFS, Frank's Finest brush and my latest razor yesterday and I want to shave again today, but I can't (no stubble and only one cut!!)
I hope this helps. PM me if you want to catch up, not that I feel qualified to mentor you, but some discussion could uncover a BFO FWIW
Geoff

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Hi Geoff

I will give you a call Sunday arvo if that's any good for you
It will be great to say g'day and chew the fat for a bit
Take care for now

Rick

No worries, Rick.
I've just PM'd you my number.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Cheers,
Geoff

Hey Geoff

Thanks for that mate, got it in my phone now
Should be in touch soon - today turned out to be a no go
Sorry about the late notice

Have a good week

Rick

If your lather seems slick on the first pass, consider rinsing your face with water before putting on the shaving cream for the second pass. I find this often helps with the second pass. My face is often a bit dry by the time I finish my first pass.

Happy Shaving!

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Originally Posted by DLB

If your lather seems slick on the first pass, consider rinsing your face with water before putting on the shaving cream for the second pass. I find this often helps with the second pass. My face is often a bit dry by the time I finish my first pass.

Happy Shaving!

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Tried this with my shave yesterday
It certainly helps a bit
and a little more water in the lather helped too
Ahh the fun of learning the ropes

Thanks for the tip

Rick