Thread: Lot of pulling / tugging since last shave

I've only used the straight for the 6th time tonight and there's a lot of pulling. Is it possible that I've already dulled the edge through bad technique / stropping?

As for stropping, I was barely using any pressure and only enough to get that light scraping / singing noise from the blade (Dovo Best Quality). Also, I was never starting with the cutting edge against the leather, I started moving forward a little before bringing it in contact with the leather.

Think it would need to be honed? If so, are there any members from the UK that you'd recommended? All those in the Classifieds are US / International based. I was going to send it to Steve at Invisible Edge as that's where I got it, but he's got a notice saying that the sharpening section is closed until January 2013 due to backlog of work.

Before trying anything else try stropping it more. Say double what you normally would do and see if that improves it.

It is possible you have dulled the edge but could be something else also.
As your still new it may have just been poor technique or bad prep. I remember in my early days I would have a bad shave with tugging/pulling then the next shave would be OK and nothing done to the blade.
Give it a good carefully stropping and see how your next shave goes.
If you are convinced you need a honing you could try Neil Miller if Steve is busy...
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Could just be that the edge needs refreshing w/ a little paste or spray. Like the others here said, you are new, so chances of you dulling the blade quicker are more likely. 5 passes over the pasted strop and 25-30 on linen, 50-60 on leather should get you back in the game. Also, don't lift the blade off the strop; make your stroke, stop, flip the blade on the spine w/it in constant contact, then make your next pass. Lifting it then beginning your stroke, then allowing the edge to basically "hit" the strop in motion will roll the edge, which could be part of your problem.

Did your razor come professionally honed? If not it would be best to go ahead and send it off. Like the others said more stropping could help the problem. You may also be putting too much pressure on the blade when you are shaving. Try going lighter and change up your angle of the blade as you shave as this could also have something to do with it.

I've only had two attempts, and those were only on the right side of my face and a bit of my neck, so I'm not sure anything I can bring to the table is going to be much use. That said, what I found was the slickness of the lather seems to make a lot of difference. I must of spent half an hour or so gradually adding water bit by bit to get rid of the feeling that the bristles were being pulled out by the roots (when I first started having with a DE razor I found a few drops of glycerin in the lather helps it all glide a bit more). Also, the angle of the blade on the face makes a huge difference might be worth adjusting that a bit.

Hey guys, sorry for taking so long to reply, was out watching The Hobbit.

I noticed it was starting to tug a bit the last time, but only a bit. This time, I doubled the stropping laps in case that was it, but noticeably more tugging this time.

Also, don't lift the blade off the strop; make your stroke, stop, flip the blade on the spine w/it in constant contact, then make your next pass

Sorry, I should have explained better. The spine of the razor is always in contact, but when flipping over, i start the movement slightly before bringing the cutting edge lightly in contact with the strop, just increasing the pressure enough to get that slight scraping / ringing sound.

have you nicked the strop with your edge if so that could be another reason you lost your edge

Nope, I went for the 3" strop from Invisible Edge so that I didn't have to do the X pattern, that way I had less complexity when stropping.

Did your razor come professionally honed? If not it would be best to go ahead and send it off. Like the others said more stropping could help the problem. You may also be putting too much pressure on the blade when you are shaving. Try going lighter and change up your angle of the blade as you shave as this could also have something to do with it.

Yes, I got it off Steve from Invisible Edge, so it was honed before being sent out. I've always had a problem with razor burn so I've been taking a 'lightly lightly' approach (plus nervous about taking a chunk out of my face). I start with the blade flat against the face and then angle it out until it catches the stubble and proceed with very small strokes. The whole process takes ages still, as I'll trying to remember everything.

I have the same prep routine as always, as I've been using the same prep for near 2 months, for use with the cartridge, before getting the straight.

I couldn't finish the WTG pass, it was starting to get sore, so had to finish with the cartridge.

I was planning to spend 2 weeks over Christmas to start and learn honing myself, but haven't got a cheap razor for that yet. I've only got the 3" strop from IE, doesn't have the canvas back and I don't have another to put paste on. Hence was hoping to find someone who knew what they were doing haha (especially before the Christmas hols).

what type of strop have you got? don't be frightend to strop you can use a little presure so long as strop is fairly taught and you keep the spine in full contact all the time your stropping, so keeping the spine flat to the strop and even when you turn razor over to come back towards you roll the razor over and keep spine on strop do not lift spine of strop. so basicly the spine back of razor never leaves the strop that way you will not roll the cutting edge . it could just need a real good stropping or rehone . have you nicked the strop with your edge if so that could be another reason you lost your edge .. You could always get some sharpening paste on balsa and try touch up your self before you spend any money on rehoning. steve sells plenty of sharpening paste .

gary

Originally Posted by gary haywood

. . . don't be frightend to strop you can use a little presure so long as strop is fairly taught and you keep the spine in full contact all the time your stropping, so keeping the spine flat to the strop and even when you turn razor over to come back towards you roll the razor over and keep spine on strop do not lift spine of strop. so basicly the spine back of razor never leaves the strop that way you will not roll the cutting edge . . . .
gary

Keep reading that. If your blade is making noise when you're stropping, it is quite possible that you're lifting the spine off the strop. That _will_ dull the edge.

. Charles

I get quite a lot of noise when I strop, more so from some razors (full hollow) than others. It's the TYPE of noise that's important; I won't try to explain what I know to be 'bad' noise.

I'd actually go against the grain so to speak here and say that if it was me, I'd get a Shapton 16k and do 10 very light very careful laps on that. First, though, I'd find out if it was honed using tape. I know that sounds radical, and I'm no expert, but honing isn't all THAT hard; it's quite achievable. You might find that 10 laps on the Shapton 16k brings it back fine. That's how I usually bring my razors back, so to speak. I've never sent a razor to anyone to be honed (started SR shaving in June '11) and I'm quite proud of that fact really. Of course, I can't change the oil in my car or fix a cupboard door, but I can hone reasonably well... Just my opinion.