Women's belly buttons... sexy?

Belly button jewelry is becoming more and more popular, but there's nothing like a bare belly button just peeking out a little bit, wouldn't you say?

http://media.funlol.com/content/img/...y-on-bench.jpg

Looks like a "vertically challenged" person hiding under her skirt to me.

MY EYES!!! MY EYYYYES !!!
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It's not her fault. It's her hormones. Really. having a 7000 Calorie/day intake has nothing to do with it. And she is not fat either. She is gravitationally challenged. :roflmao

The new face of McDonald's :eek:

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Originally Posted by Bruno

MY EYES!!! MY EYYYYES !!!
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It's not her fault. It's her hormones. Really. having a 7000 Calorie/day intake has nothing to do with it. And she is not fat either. She is gravitationally challenged. :roflmao

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I don't think she challenged at all... looks more like she's gravitationally gifted :roflmao

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Originally Posted by custommartini

I don't think she challenged at all... looks more like she's gravitationally gifted :roflmao

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Yeah, she has her own gravitational field, whose strength is on the par with the planet's.. That's why so much food is attracted to her.

Things are getting so scary: a woman I know (working in US healthcare) is getting a bonus for being normal weight. Everyone else at her office is obese! And they are sometimes nasty to her too... I feel bad for obese people, it's really hard to start improving when you get there, I guess. But if they start giving normal people attitude and dressing like porn stars - that's it for me!

While I was a 2 pack a day smoker, I had really obese people coming up to me, telling me how smoking's bad for me.. Guess what my response to that was :cool:

The obesity problem in America is really quite sad. I my self need to start getting a bit more exercise. I'm not fat, but I have noticed a few extra Lbs lately. I guess that is what happens after you leave a job where you are doing very physical labor for ten hours a day to sitting at a desk all day looking at code haha. I used to rock climb, but it has taken a back seat to the razor addiction I am afraid. "Hmmm, spend 300 for the rock gym membership, or BUY A NEW LATIGO STROP FROM TONY!"

Anyway, I have mixed emotions about this photo. It is undoubtedly funny and I don't necessarily see a problem with that at all. But still I have to wonder how this women would feel if she saw it floating around somehow. I'd imagine she would eat more food. I'm not trying to make anyone feel guilty. My jaw dropped just like everybody else's I am sure. I was just sharing a thought is all.

This brings up another question. What is the situation in other countries? Do you guys have similar problems with obesity?

We're not there yet, but we are getting there. Too few opportunities to exercise, too much junk food (most of it coming in from the south), too many people driving and not walking.. Basically same issues, just to a smaller extent. Europe's a bit better but won't be for too long.

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Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

We're not there yet, but we are getting there. Too few opportunities to exercise, too much junk food (most of it coming in from the south), too many people driving and not walking.. Basically same issues, just to a smaller extent. Europe's a bit better but won't be for too long.

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Funny how it is always the fault of the food and where it comes from and not the person shoveling giant portions of it into their mouth. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Scrapyard Ape

Funny how it is always the fault of the food and where it comes from and not the person shoveling giant portions of it into their mouth. :rolleyes:

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How long before we start passing spoon control laws. :D

This is all just wroooong:eek:

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Originally Posted by Scrapyard Ape

Funny how it is always the fault of the food and where it comes from and not the person shoveling giant portions of it into their mouth. :rolleyes:

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As soon as your government stops blocking our people's attempts to legalize marijuana. We practically had it legalized and had to pull back the legislation because of foreign pressure. Don't blame the country that made it legal, blame people who come here to toke up and decide to bring some home.
I do recognize that no junk food would be coming if we weren't more than willing to buy it up by the truckload.

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Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

As soon as your government stops blocking our people's attempts to legalize marijuana. We practically had it legalized and had to pull back the legislation because of foreign pressure. Don't blame the country that made it legal, blame people who come here to toke up and decide to bring some home.
I do recognize that no junk food would be coming if we weren't more than willing to buy it up by the truckload.

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Well said, How True

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Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

As soon as your government stops blocking our people's attempts to legalize marijuana. We practically had it legalized and had to pull back the legislation because of foreign pressure. Don't blame the country that made it legal, blame people who come here to toke up and decide to bring some home.

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Where did I say anything like that?

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I do recognize that no junk food would be coming if we weren't more than willing to buy it up by the truckload.

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Then you should have said that instead of placing the blame on the food and it's origin.

I'm pretty much a libertarian when it comes to all of this. With freedom and choice comes responsibility ----- it's as simple as that for me.


Justin

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Then you should have said that instead of placing the blame on the food and it's origin.

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A part blame DOES lie with the junk/fast food industry. The way they advertise and what they serve is attrocious.

You think it might have something to do with the fat-food industry?

http://www.wayodd.com/funny-pictures...lds-ad-zXj.jpg

Don't blame the dealer for selling 'dem Big Macs, blame the user for chowing them down :nj

But they MADE him eat those Big Macs. It's big business and their evil mind control machines that are at fault here. :D

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Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

A part blame DOES lie with the junk/fast food industry. The way they advertise and what they serve is attrocious.

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Hideous advertising practices have nothing to do with it. The quality of the food has little to do with it.

If any blame deserves to be leveled and the fast food industry it is the increase in portion sizes over the last fifty years. But then, most regular restaurants are guilty of the same thing. Why no mention of them?

Part blame huh? Why then does this "part blame" get more attention than all other reasons combined? Say "obesity" and the word "McDonalds" is sure to be mentioned within seconds. Yet not one word is uttered about how people are consuming ungodly amounts of food.

This all goes toward one thing. People don't want to take responsibility for their own actions. It is soooooo much easier to assign blame to someone or something else. "Oh, I weigh 400 pounds! It must be Burger King's fault that I eat 3000 calories in one sitting and then don't exercise."

And before anyone says anything else.... I know what I am talking about. I've battled obesity my entire life. And guess where the blame lies? Me. Nowhere else.

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This all goes toward one thing. People don't want to take responsibility for their own actions. It is soooooo much easier to assign blame to someone or something else. "Oh, I weigh 400 pounds! It must be Burger King's fault that I eat 3000 calories in one sitting and then don't exercise."

And before anyone says anything else.... I know what I am talking about. I've battled obesity my entire life. And guess where the blame lies? Me. Nowhere else.

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Blame is easier to give than to receive ---- plus you really can't sue yourself for ungodly amounts of money.


Justin

I am not saying that the consumer isn't to blame. But when they get the kids hooked to junk food from the earliest age and junk food companies like Coca Cola and Pepsi arrange for exclusive contracts to peddle their junk in schools, is it really a wonder that your average fat Joe considers it a part of his life?

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I am not saying that the consumer isn't to blame. But when they get the kids hooked to junk food from the earliest age and junk food companies like Coca Cola and Pepsi arrange for exclusive contracts to peddle their junk in schools, is it really a wonder that your average fat Joe considers it a part of his life?

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Let's examine what you just wrote here. You began your post with "I am not saying that the consumer isn't to blame." yet go on absolve the consumer of any blame in the rest of your post.

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. But when they get the kids hooked to junk food from the earliest age...

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Once again.... all focus on the producer of the item. Not one letter dedicated to the parents who allow their children to eat and drink whatever they get their hands on.

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...and junk food companies like Coca Cola and Pepsi arrange for exclusive contracts to peddle their junk in schools

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Let's see... the company deserves ALL the ire for this. Never mind that those contracts are drawn up and signed by TWO parties, not just the vendors. Again, not one letter of venom toward the school boards who put their signatures on those contracts.

Selective finger pointing won't solve any problems.

School boards and consumers are to blame but you are attempting to place all of the blame on the consumer and none of the big corporations peddling that junk. School boards are also stupid for allowing this and in most cases for having nutritionally attrocious caf food.
Actually I believe that the solution to the problem lies in proper upbringing...
1) The only thing that vending machines in schools should be selling are 100% fruit juices and water.
2) Parents have to stop serving their kids with junk food at homes
3) Our governments should invest more into athletic programs for kids instead of cancelling gym class
4) At least 25% of a mandatory course for every year of schooling from grades 1 to 10 should involve proper nutrition
5) Don't take kids to junk food restaurants or if you do, not more often than 4 times a year
If we kill the demand for junk, the corporate world will have to re-consider the offerings.

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Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

School boards and consumers are to blame but you are attempting to place all of the blame on the consumer and none of the big corporations peddling that junk. School boards are also stupid for allowing this and in most cases for having nutritionally attrocious caf food.
Actually I believe that the solution to the problem lies in proper upbringing...
1) The only thing that vending machines in schools should be selling are 100% fruit juices and water.
2) Parents have to stop serving their kids with junk food at homes
3) Our governments should invest more into athletic programs for kids instead of cancelling gym class
4) At least 25% of a mandatory course for every year of schooling from grades 1 to 10 should involve proper nutrition
5) Don't take kids to junk food restaurants or if you do, not more often than 4 times a year
If we kill the demand for junk, the corporate world will have to re-consider the offerings.

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Wow tells us how you really feel;)

I gave good working solutions. However all parties will come up with excuses..
Parents: I can't control what my kids are eating or police them all the time
Governments: We have to invest in boosting our economy and fighting terrorism
Schools: Gym classes are expensive and synthetic junk is cheaper than real food
Guess what's going to happen to our population in a decade or two.

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Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

School boards and consumers are to blame but you are attempting to place all of the blame on the consumer and none of the big corporations peddling that junk. School boards are also stupid for allowing this and in most cases for having nutritionally attrocious caf food.

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Wrong. Re read what I have written. I have pointed out that you are engaging in selective finger pointing. I have not removed any blame from corporations(I did say that consumers deserve a much bigger slice of the blame than they currently get) I have also said that if you are going to place blame, place it on ALL who deserve it.

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Actually I believe that the solution to the problem lies in proper upbringing...
1) The only thing that vending machines in schools should be selling are 100% fruit juices and water.
2) Parents have to stop serving their kids with junk food at homes
3) Our governments should invest more into athletic programs for kids instead of cancelling gym class
4) At least 25% of a mandatory course for every year of schooling from grades 1 to 10 should involve proper nutrition
5) Don't take kids to junk food restaurants or if you do, not more often than 4 times a year
If we kill the demand for junk, the corporate world will have to re-consider the offerings.

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And just how are you going to enforce these? Especially 2 and 5. Also please state what penalty you would impose for violating these rules.

I don't think (maybe I've missed something) we're even considering the lack of exercise that kids get today --- whose going to regulate that. When I was a kid you couldn't keep me in one place -- - I was always active ----very little TV and no video games. I think a lot of this could be solve by turning the computer, TV, and video games off. It's all a little bit more complex than fast/poor food.


Justin

Yep - the equation's simple: if (energy in) < (energy out), you lose fat (not weight necessarily, at least not immediately - muscle is heavier than fat).

Unfortunately, like all simple things, the devil's in the detail. You can vary the left hand side of the equation (diet) or the right (excercise), or both simulaneously (my preference). And not all (energy in)s are equal - you can have two diets with similar caloric intake, but if one has high fat content there's other issues generated.

Don't take this the wrong way - I'm not into guilt-trips, but I found the initial picture pathetic, in the original meaning of the word. There's a lot of reasons why someone gets morbidly obese like that poor woman, and a lot of it's emotional in my experience. You are of course responsible for your own actions, and every action has a reaction and all that. But horrendous childhoods, low self esteem, abuse, lack of support, social isolation - they can all sow the seeds. And once you pass a certain point, it's very hard to go back.

Sorry - I know that was really preachy...

James.

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Yep - the equation's simple: if (energy in) < (energy out), you lose fat (not weight necessarily, at least not immediately - muscle is heavier than fat).

Unfortunately, like all simple things, the devil's in the detail. You can vary the left hand side of the equation (diet) or the right (excercise), or both simulaneously (my preference). And not all (energy in)s are equal - you can have two diets with similar caloric intake, but if one has high fat content there's other issues generated.

Don't take this the wrong way - I'm not into guilt-trips, but I found the initial picture pathetic, in the original meaning of the word. There's a lot of reasons why someone gets morbidly obese like that poor woman, and a lot of it's emotional in my experience. You are of course responsible for your own actions, and every action has a reaction and all that. But horrendous childhoods, low self esteem, abuse, lack of support, social isolation - they can all sow the seeds. And once you pass a certain point, it's very hard to go back.

Sorry - I know that was really preachy...

James.

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Not preachy James --- just true. In every controversial situation like this one , there are always easy targets of the blame. I'd be willing to say that kids from good families can tackle and handle almost anything -- but your are right there are all types of childhood issues that can bring about general bad health in adults . Ultimately (even if outside sources can be blamed) it's up to the individual ---- difficult ?--yes very difficult but that's how life goes.

Justin

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And just how are you going to enforce these? Especially 2 and 5. Also please state what penalty you would impose for violating these rules.

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Who said anything about enforcement? 1, 3 and 4 are simple policies, easy to implement as long as people are willing to invest in children (which, unfortunately, is not the case). 2 and 5 are guidelines.
In any case I offered solutions, not legal measures. If people are not smart enough to take care of themselves, they deserve what they get. If I wanted to get really nasty, I'd suggest mandatory medical checks including BFP checks and if the kid's BFP is too high without a legitimate medical explanation, the parents could be found unfit. That would get'em to listen to the voice of reason, but good luck passing that little piece of legislation lol.

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Who said anything about enforcement? 1, 3 and 4 are simple policies, easy to implement as long as people are willing to invest in children (which, unfortunately, is not the case). 2 and 5 are guidelines.
In any case I offered solutions, not legal measures. If people are not smart enough to take care of themselves, they deserve what they get. If I wanted to get really nasty, I'd suggest mandatory medical checks including BFP checks and if the kid's BFP is too high without a legitimate medical explanation, the parents could be found unfit. That would get'em to listen to the voice of reason, but good luck passing that little piece of legislation lol.

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I brought up enforcement because your original posting is a list of "solutions" with nothing to specify which are merely "guidelines". You added the guideline qualifier to two of them after the fact. I also brought up enforcement because if not everyone follows your solutions, then they are not really solutions to the problem, are they?

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Not preachy James --- just true. In every controversial situation like this one , there are always easy targets of the blame. I'd be willing to say that kids from good families can tackle and handle almost anything -- but your are right there are all types of childhood issues that can bring about general bad health in adults . Ultimately (even if outside sources can be blamed) it's up to the individual ---- difficult ?--yes very difficult but that's how life goes.

Justin

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I agree completely. I guess what I meant was that for some, not all, obesity is a symptom. When that's the case, the cause needs to be addressed - applying stiches might stop external bleeding, but if it was because you cut an artery...

And addressing emotional causes is tough. I've got a lot of respect for people who can and have done it. But no less respect for those who haven't been able to.

James.

wrong wrong wrong. thats all i have to say

I'll toss in a viewpoint. I am obese. But perception is reality. I have never seen myself as large as I really am. Until recently. And yes, I am working on it. But for those of you who have never been obese, you will not and do not understand what life is like for an obese person. You just think you do. And you think you know where to place the blame. I've tried diets. I've tried exercise. I've tried both together, with total dedication. But the pounds still add up. I don't eat at McDonalds. I don't eat fast food. I don't blame my thyroid, because I have been tested. I spent 6 months on a 1500 calorie diet and walking 2 miles per day. Every day. Weight lifting every other day. With no weight loss. So don't judge. Due to my size, I can't run or jog, only walk. And I do that throughout the day. I don't drink alcohol. I don't eat sweets. Snacks consist of fruit such as apples, oranges, kiwis or grapes. Meals consist of salads, vegetables, with limited amounts of meat or fowl for protein. Yet the weight remains. I would bet that my diet is 200% more healthy than most of you here posting on this thread. Yet, I cannot drop pounds. The original picture posted is not funny. It is sad. And if you think about it, it is a reflection on today's picture of health. Look at yourself. Look at your spouse. Look at your children. How many of you are at your "healthiest" or "ideal" weight? If you are not at your "ideal" weight, then you have no right to reply to this post.

Rant over. I don't mean to offend anyone. But this is a "walk a mile in my shoes" thing. As far as this is concerned, let's turn the tables. Let's talk intelligence. Let's take an IQ test. I promise you one thing. I may be obese, but as far as intelligence, for most of you here, I will kick your ever loving "laugh at the fatty" ass! Okay, now the rant is over.

RT

Damn. I ain't exactly petite but then again, I don't worry about self image issues. I got fat by eating too much and not exercising enough. I also know that I can get unfat by exercising more and eating less. My choice either way.

See, what happened was that being in the computer industry, Y2K was a big, scary thing with lots of "end of the world scenarios" being bandied about, so I was just stocking up for the planned food shortages, getting ready for Y2K. Well..... didn't need all the reserves I'd stored up and was going to set about shuckin them off when it dawned on me that there was no point wasting all that work since Y3K was still looming out in front of us. :D

Sometimes when I go to McDonalds and I see someone that big eating 6 big macs with fries drinking a diet coke, like the diet pop is doing anything for them. There are moments where I like to overindulge too, once every three or four months, just not every day. Thats why the diet industry is a billion dollar business here in the US, not to mention all the surgeries out there for this. They probably have stocks in the fast food corporations. Seems like more and more you hear and see about these people on Date Line or other similar shows where people are 1000 lbs plus. All of this fast food talk has reminded me of the song..The underwear goes outside the pants.


Just my 2 cents on the matter.



David

Wow wear did this thread go