True Irony happening in our area too
Front line medical workers that dealt with Cv-19 before the Vax and without proper PPE are now losing their jobs for refusing to get the Vax
Only in Joe Biden's America
You can't make this up
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True Irony happening in our area too
Front line medical workers that dealt with Cv-19 before the Vax and without proper PPE are now losing their jobs for refusing to get the Vax
Only in Joe Biden's America
You can't make this up
Why this particular vid won't open I have not idea. I have been listening to both sides of this topic for months. From those months of listening I stand by what I have said regardless of what may be on a single vid that won't open. I feel truly sorry for anyone at this point in the pandemic that won't get vaccinated period. I can abide someone who is naturally intellectually challenged not comprehending something but have no patience for those that are wilfully so.
Bob
You must get the same news as Nelson
It seems that you guys are woefully misinformed or willfully ignorant of what is going on
You all seriously need to expand your news sources..
I have explained it repeatedly and to use Bob's own words "I can abide someone who is naturally intellectually challenged not comprehending something but have no patience for those that are wilfully so."
ps: Those of you in LA county and parts of Nevada put your masks back on, vax or not
cause Science :rofl2:
Well I have no idea what's going on in Idaho but as I said we don't have any mandates here. I work with nurses who have opted not to get vaccinated, yes they are all working and nobody is forcing them to do anything. No state mandates, no hospital mandates.
Now if you are referring to the news like the Texas Methodist that fired people for not getting vaccinated, well that was not a federal mandate but a decision made by a private organization and upheld by the court after a lawsuit was filed. Will see if it makes it all the way to the SCOTUS.
But hey I might be wrong so please show me a federal covid 19 vaccine mandate.
I had both shots of AZ. Almost three weeks since my second dose now.
Not because I didn’t believe in my own immunization system, nor because I didn’t think I would be able to recover from the virus naturally.
I did it to ensure I could travel globally still as I have no doubt that the eu will insist on proof of vaccinations before allowing folks in. And Canada will need proof before letting me come home.
My children at 29 and 27 have still not had any shot despite my wife and I suggesting they do, and trying to lead by example.
They both fear long term, like two generations away, impact from the shots. Think handmaidens tail type biological changes.
I cannot say for certain that science has simulated genetic impact three generations out on this drug, or any drug for that matter. So since neither have bred yet, I respect their concerns, even as I hope they don’t have to test their immunity system against this virus.
This should all come down to free will and choice. Fear tactics and targeted social media will not help.
The evidence, as promoted, shows that the vaccines are reducing the daily new case numbers in Ontario. So to say the shots don’t work as intended would appear an inaccurate position.
I really just hope we get to the magical herd immunity target willingly and people can live, or die with their own free will intact.
:gl:
So where's the copy on this Glen? Not being a smart-ass being serious in the spirit of believe only half of what you see and none of what you hear. Anyone can make claims but if there really is something happening that you know about that you obviously want people to be informed about (since you brought it up) then share it with us, let us verify it for ourselves and come to our own conclusions. Isn't that what you want?
I was unaware of the Prion relationship until very recently with the Mrna vaccines, you really have to dig for anything on that, much like anything else negative about these vaccines it is being squashed
Every other Vax I have ever received I haven't had to use special search engines to find the side effects I also have never had people cheerleading them
Not once did anyone say "Glen you play with tons of sharp steel, you should get a Tetanus vax" I mean it does have a 20% lethality rate.. no cheerleaders needed
My two peneth,
I think everyone that can get the shots should.
If the experienced honers here all die of covid, how will I learn to make my edges better:shrug:
Thanks to all for your condolences. It really means a lot. Life is a precious blessing in any amount and I thank God for The life of this young man. May he rest in peace.
Any of you who are of the mind please pray for those left behind, a daughter who will have only vague memory of her father if that, a finance whose life plans have been drastically altered and may also carry guilt for transmitting this to her future husband.
I don't claim to have any answers much less THE answer but it occurs to me that all of this talk is academic and any side effects seem to tail in comparison to a life lost and the effects it has had on those around him. If he had it to do again I can't say he would have done something different but in his place I think I might have.
I've always believed that whatever you look for you will likely find. As I have said before I am the eternal optimist and I believe that good will come from any event if it is looked for and allowed to. That will be my prayer and my hope is that it may start with me.
If I were able to get my head around people not getting the vaccines, I would never get my head around anyone in the US not getting it. Wasn't the US the clear leaders in covid deaths until recently, and isn't it on the rise again.
Oh well, Canada could use a bit more land when it becomes empty.
I didn't want the shots but I didn't want to risk killing someone either so I got them, both of them. There may be long term side effects and in a few years my nuts might fall off but I'm 60 next year so i probably don't need em much.
Okay let me get this straight
Not getting the Vax means you are going to die or kill someone ???
Is that what you really believe ??? It would explain a lot of the posts in here
No,
I went and found it and I am sure you can too if you so decide if you even care,
I have learned well in this thread, and on FB that by posting any link that doesn't agree with status quo will simply get a response of "That doesn't Count" so why bother..
If you are too lazy to simply punch it into a search engine to answer your own questions what use is it for me to do so.
or
Link Wars are of no use I will link one side you will link another and we will continue ad nauseum total waste of time
If you already got a Vax it is REALLY a waste of time, and honestly I don't see any reason that you are even continuing down this path..
If it works what do you care, if there are bad side effects it is to late now
You'll forgive me Glen but that was really weak. You want to make a lot of claims and not support them. If you're so sure the evidence then what difference does it make what I think? You seem to want the argument more than you want the truth. I hope you find what you are looking for. As I said before we usually do
News
The Biden WH is now directing FB as to what info is allowed to be disseminated about the Vaccines
Because the Science is Settled and there shall be no dissent from the Serfs, Shut up and Obey
I got mine. My parents are 86 years old. They got theirs. I personally don't care if someone wants to get one or not. Because that's their business. The mask thing is nonsense. And so is the quarantine. We did that last year and covid took over anyway. Fact! In NYC last year the overwhelming majority of people were quarantined and wearing masks. And yet despite this 2/3 or more of new cases were people who wore masks and we're quarantined. MIT scientist says the mask does nothing. But wear a mask anyway. It's all nonsense. Many states numbers are skewed as we are finding out now. Don't blame unvaccinated people for the pandemic or the increase in cases. It's THEIR BUSINESS if they don't want it. So trying to force someone to do something they don't want to do is nonsense. So far we live in a free country. Use your freedom any way you want that's legal. The rest is just blowing wind. You won't.get people to do anything they don't want to. So maybe people should stop trying to.
The reason we want everybody vaccinated isn't because of some nefarious plot against right wingers.
It's all about you know s-c-i-e-n-c-e. The more unvaccinated folks in a population the more the virus will mutate more radically until it may or may not morph into something really bad.
This is all pointless. As far as I'm concerned anyone not wanting to be vaccinated is like someone on the deck of the Titanic as it goes down. Going down? Of course not. This is unsinkable, it must be false news. Look at all those fools jumping into the water.
Yes it is, you got jabbed, it covers all variants, Lord Faucci said so, well until he tells you that you might need a booster...
Question, What are you going to do if a booster is needed, Trump ain't around to push it through in record time (Politics just to ruffle your feathers)
Allowing "science" to supercede peoples constitutional rights is bad. Maybe in a communist country you can do that. "we need group think comrades! The greater good, blah blah blah." Slaves and robots are made this way. But not here. You have a constitutional right to stay quarantined for the rest of your life vaccinated or not. You also have the same right to go out and about, you also have the right to refuse or take a vaccine. ANd heckling people because of it is foolish.
There is a difference between someone putting a pair of handcuffs on you and the Govt forcing you to get vaccinated and your employer saying "get vaxed or stay home.
My wife works for the local school system and they can't make anyone get vaccinated period.
If you work for a private outfit and yer boss says stand on yer head or get fired? Well it's his outfit and you vote with yer feet. Yea you can take him to court if you want.
There is no reasoning with ideologues. They find evidence to support what they already believe. This is true regardless of red or blue, left or right. I am as libertarian as anyone but I refuse to be told what to think. I look at all the evidence with equal scepticism. Far right, far left they are all full of agenda and devoid of interest in the truth. I have known people who are in their 60s, heavy drinker, liver disease, over weight that got covid and we're a little sick. I have also known young healthy people with no high risk that died with it. I have heard quackery on both sides. I have weighed the evidence and done my best to sift through the noise. I am going to get the vaccine tomorrow morning because I feel the benefits outweigh the risks. If you agree great. If you don't that also is great. "I'm the one who's got to die when it's time for me to die. So let me live my life the way I want to."
If you want to force people into it, then start at the southern border. All those detained and released into the general population arent getting it either if they dont want one. And they have less rights than citizens do although it seems to be the other way around. Maybe during the election the party "leaders" should have had more brains than to instill the fear of the vaccine in their voters. I didnt hear anything about science then. They did a great job! Now after the election the same idiots who said they dont trust it are telling people to get one. Talk about science? You can get a scientific report to say anything you want if you have enough data. As i said I got mine. But that doesnt mean someone who doesnt should be shunned. Why are vaccinated people so afraid of covid if they got their shot?
Don’t know if uncle joe mandates it but St. Judes here in Memphis just told their whole staff get vaccinated or get another job. Not my words, in the news here, so I’m sure it’s got to be somewhere else too
Also Paul, did this 26 year old man not have his shots? Cause if he didn’t, I would think your opinion of non vaxers would have you thinking, it’s his own damn fault. And if he did have the shots, maybe they ain’t so effective. And before you get on your soapbox, I lost a real friend to this disease. I’m just saying
Everything else you posted was superfluous pontificating, and honestly by announcing you are getting the shot it was a bit of Virtue Signaling too
This might have been better
"I have weighed the evidence and done my best to sift through the noise, I will do as I see fit for me and my family and my decision is between me and my Dr"
Yeah there we go !!! see how that works
1 Million Detained at the southern border and sent all over the US since May 1st
Unknown but probably close to another 1 million Got aways during the same time spread all over the US
New rise of Cv-19 in the US,
Hey now,, don't look at those facts, they are not related, Shut up and Obey Serf
Yeah I trust Biden NOT !!!
More politics just to pitch it back
HA !!!!
I just did a Zoom Interview for a job that might be kinda fun
Thanks Cv-19 for Zoom Interviews
Oh and I kinda miss Social Distancing too, I don't like people in my bubble, this was 18 months of freedom from "Space Invaders" without having to be rude :)
tsk tsk you wouldn't be trying to bait me would you???
Oh yes the Southern Border. You recall I worked for the INS. There have been over runs at the border going back to the 1970s at least. No matter who the Pres was or his party was. Our illustrious congress has never wanted to deal with that problem over the years and we are still reaping that refusal.
By the way what about the Northern Border? You might be surprised how many folks cross illegally up there. No the numbers aren't like the south but they are substantial. How about all those folks who come here legally via our other borders and never leave? There are millions. Who talks about that?
You know how many crewman off ships abscond off ships and never leave? You might be surprised there too. But of course the Southern Border garners all the hype and forget about the rest. Just like Covid eh?
Well you know, maybe it's time to close this thread as it has turned into a political pissing match.
Bob