Any time they simplify and save you a buck, be very suspicious.......Something will go up twofold soon! :eek:
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Any time they simplify and save you a buck, be very suspicious.......Something will go up twofold soon! :eek:
Oh it already haas Tom!
Filled up yesterday on super, over 2 bucks a liter now, or 8 bucks a gallon
Cost to fill up has almost doubled since pre pandemic and no signs of slowing down.
Everything is going up,,,
Won't argue that point. Interesting link to see what Europe or the rest of the world pays.
https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/g...eb1313ace#Find
Bob
I know the UK is very expensive, the first question most of asked when getting a new car was, what does it do to the gallon.
When I was 16 i had a Yamaha FS1E 50cc. It was classed as a moped because in theory you could unlock the footrests and turn them into bicycle pedal configuration, then actually pedal it. I did it when i first got it and my legs had to go round in a blur just to get enough speed to keep the thing balanced. It took just once sliding off of it on a wet roundabout before the footrest were bent enough that there was no chance of ever moving them to peddle again.
For a 50cc it went like stink, I got 56 MPH though a nearby town, I know it was 56 because the police told me :rofl2:
A few years after I got mine, new ones were restricted to 30mph with a washer in the exhaust manifold, obviously it took those 16 year olds about 10 seconds to get that restriction off but my point was going to be at last, it used to cost me 50p for a gallon of petrol and 10p for 2 shots of oil (2 stroke).
IIRC, in 1969 when I began driving (legally) a gallon (4.5 L) cost between $0.45 and $0.50 CAD or 10 cents a litre for premium gas. Keep in mind the the Canadian dollar was at par or slightly more than the US dollar at the time. That same gallon in Vancouver BC cost $ 9.90 or so for regular grade gasoline. the Canadian dollar is nowhere near par these days either. Oh, how times have changed.
Bob
We just took a bump again here. About 4 bucks a gal for regular with 15 percent ethanol.
They usually go down in the summer from the 10 in winter.
They went up.
Some crappy gas. Ethanol boils at 180f. No wonder some folks carry guns! :soapbox:
Kidding......
Ya, it only hurts when you go buy gas.
I still spun the V8 pretty tight to-day. Old habit. Folks are crawling along and sipping.
Gedthefugoutathaway!!!:banghead:
How did this go from guns to gas? I mean really, all we have to do is look at the prices and we all get gas..
Prices of gas and everything else puts a dent in the gun budget!!
Try running a service business on $4.50/gallon. It's not like I can drive some little pissant vehicle either. I am stuck with the full size van fully/over loaded getting my 10 mpg otherwise I spend more making trips back and forth.
This is a Gas Thread. Not a Gun Thread. I think someone got lost in the shuffle. :)
And being a Gas thread you would think I would have a lot to say. Nope!
We (Colorado) are always below the average price so that is good. I think we recently hit 4 dollars a gallon, like last week.
Since I'm not working I haven't seen how the prices have been changing much. I only fill the cars up once a month now.
GASman just checking in on the GAS Thread.
I reckon Paul should eat the gas incease, give everyone a discount except for frat houses - he should do those for free and live on beans on toast :roflmao
What do you think I live on now? :roflmao
Now come on.!! Did you really think they were going to let you keep all that stimulus money.
Hell...their taking it all back, plus interest lost.
Leave it to the democrats. Happens every time they take office.
Personally, I think it has little to do with who is in power in whatever country you care to name. It is a global problem just like the other shortages people are facing globally. It is a combination of factors like the pandemic and Russia's war in the Ukraine that is causing these shortages. It could be time for people in the US to stop navel gazing and take a look at what is happening in the rest of the world. The US is not unique and is still better off, even after the gas price increases, than the majority of countries in Europe and other parts of the world. We are all vulnerable after 40 or more years of globalisation.
Bob
With due respect Bob, I don't think you can ignore or dismiss the effects the US government has on the rest.of the world. The NYSE crashes and every other market in the world crashes. The US economy and leaders have a huge effect on the world economy. We are the world's largest consumer. If we tank China, for example goes down right along with us because of the deficit in demand for their products. You may not like it but it is a reality.
Umm, this is tricky.
I like what Bob said but if Paul decides to sell any of his razors i want first dibs so in the interest of my rotation I think I better stay away from the last two post.
Sorry guys, but shaving is much more important than whose fault it is that Gas has gone up or how important the States are.
supply and demand
Oh, there is no doubt of the influence the US has on the rest of the world. I'm not saying it does not, far from it. Just think that when the rest of the world is suffering from the same rising prices for everything and no political leader has been able to do something about it or any economy has been exempt from it there must be other root causes. As powerful as the US is, it is not unique in suffering. WRT, gasoline it is better off than most even thought the rising gas prices in the US still hurt. That too is reality, like it or not.
Bob
Do you guys realise how lucky you have been all those years? Prices quoted above are at Western European levels where taxes, excises and VAT (some sort of sales tax, 21% in the Netherlands) have always been much higher than in the US. In the eighties when I lived in Houston, Tx it used to be 1 USD a gallon.
Well...the decision to shut down the pipeline sure helped. Didn't it.!!
There's billions of gallons sitting in ports, but its not being unloaded.
Oil company's have the money to build more refineries, and hydrogen fuel has been proven to work . oil companies won't let that happen
Well there are some things that are unavoidable like, oh, say for instance a pandemic but let's PLEASE NOT get started on covid again.
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...and I acknowledge that. The problem is when leaders are not doing what they could because of incompetence then that is a different story. And I would say that no matter which side of the isle the present leader was on.
No, lets not get back on the Covid kick, but at least have enough common sense to recognise that it did trigger a cascade of events that has created critical and ongoing supply issues. Globalisation has exacerbated that issue and so has just in time delivery of items needed to manufacture things. Throw in a world events like Russia's war in the Ukraine and you have the makings of a perfect crap storm. Let's not forget a good dose of corporate greed that went into creating a global economy in the first place.
The icing on the cake will be the possible shortages of agricultural produce made possible by too wet or too dry conditions during the growing season this year.
Bob
When X, Y and Z sells fuel to A,B,C,and D. Then X says no more fuel for B,C and D. Than B, C and D now have to buy more fuel from Y and Z to keep up with demand. This makes a shortage and prices go up because Y and Z dont have as much to sell and needs to keep some for themselves so raise to price to keep some.. Now if X was the biggest supplier of fuel... Even if D didnt buy much from X to start with D has to share what they normally buy because B and C need fuel because B and C used to buy a large percentage of fuel from X.
Supply and demand.
Word.
I agree for the most part but I do have to state that I think the term "corporate greed," is an oxymoron. A corporation's sole purpose is to generate a profit. To do that effectively they have to do it at the expense of others. Just like in sports; for one to win another has to lose. "It's not personal. It's just business."
Well, it is true that corporations must make a profit as that is the sole reason to be in in business. The problem is in the past what constituted a reasonable profit year over year has changed. It has now gotten to the point of quarter over quarter using whatever means possible. In the long run, that is not sustainable or healthy for the consumer, the employees, the environment and other countries they operate in. That is full blown corporate greed. There is good capitalism and bad capitalism with degrees of each in between. Personally, I'd say for the most part we are at the bad stage. I'm not against capitalism, everyone needs to make a decent living, but there has to be some balance in the system.
The no holds barred winner take all approach creates far more losers than winners and leads to an unstable society. Gut the middle class and you have trouble.
Bob
Well, to quote Will Rogers, "Things ain't what they used to be. Probably never was."
Surely you can't think that the days of the robber barons (Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, Carnegie, Chase) were better. And let's not forget the great depression. Honestly I think where we are today is not so bad in comparison.
I don't think the robber barons ever disappeared completely and there is a whole new batch today. Where we are today is bad compared to the post WWII boom years that carried on until the 1980s or so before the slide backwards to where we are today. You may recall the days when the middle class included a large number of blue collar workers. Not so much today.
Bob
Well, I'll almost agree with that. I do think that the robber barons disappeared for the most part. The labor unions took credit for it but it was mainly due to workplace reform legislation protecting workers from unfair employment practices.
There was.however a period during the baby boom when it was pretty golden. We could go on and on about what went wrong with that and there is plenty of blame to go around but one big enemy we have in the US at least, really largely the western world as a whole but especially in the US, is consumerism. Entitlement is another one that plagues us but that is a whole other rabbit hole to rant about.
It's all.about Saudi Arabia. They're the only country with instant capacity. The current administration is not on good terms with them. The prior administration was. And that has to do with Iran and Yemen.