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denmason Stop the Bailout 09-29-2008, 12:20 AM
Nord Jim I guess I'd have to ask who... 09-29-2008, 12:57 AM
Seraphim Is Warren Buffet investing $5... 09-29-2008, 12:00 PM
gssixgun I must be missing something... 09-29-2008, 01:53 PM
maplemaker No, sadly you don't have it... 09-29-2008, 02:27 PM
Smiles Both. Berkshire-Hathaway is... 09-29-2008, 03:57 PM
denmason The current $700 billion... 09-29-2008, 04:43 PM
denmason Guess what these people are... 09-29-2008, 04:52 PM
maplemaker :roflmao:roflmao:roflmao:roflm... 09-29-2008, 05:06 PM
hoglahoo oh, MAN I don't know... 09-29-2008, 06:02 PM
JMS The house rejected the bail... 09-29-2008, 06:49 PM
JMS FOXNews.com - House Defeats... 09-29-2008, 06:50 PM
Seraphim Let's see: The banks are in... 09-29-2008, 07:24 PM
English Everybody has an angle and... 09-29-2008, 07:26 PM
Seraphim $2500 per head includes men,... 09-29-2008, 07:46 PM
Quick Orange I'm still not sure where I... 09-29-2008, 08:27 PM
Brother Jeeter First off, my Wife and I live... 09-30-2008, 12:40 AM
nun2sharp GET "EM..... Sic em boy!!!!... 09-30-2008, 12:45 AM
gugi The problem is that it's not... 09-30-2008, 01:15 AM
Brother Jeeter Gugi, I wasn't doing... 09-30-2008, 01:21 AM
Nord Jim A Democratic Congressman from... 09-30-2008, 01:26 AM
Brother Jeeter Don't know what to say about... 09-30-2008, 01:36 AM
denmason And the two presidential... 09-30-2008, 01:52 AM
Sandcounty The House voted, not the... 09-30-2008, 03:27 AM
denmason Oops!! I stand corrected in... 09-30-2008, 03:54 AM
JMS All that hair is likely... 09-30-2008, 04:07 AM
denmason I promise to get my ears... 09-30-2008, 05:31 AM
Brother Jeeter I don't see why everyone's... 09-30-2008, 05:33 AM
Brother Jeeter The Congressional "leaders",... 09-30-2008, 05:38 AM
Nord Jim There wasn't actually any... 10-02-2008, 02:00 AM
Brother Jeeter "...In North America Elite... 10-02-2008, 03:50 AM
JMS Isn't that what governments... 10-02-2008, 04:25 AM
Brother Jeeter Actually, I don't want anyone... 10-02-2008, 05:33 AM
JMS Same here! 10-02-2008, 05:37 AM
denmason Here's a list of our senators... 10-02-2008, 06:01 AM
gugi So, vote 3rd party in the... 10-02-2008, 10:03 AM
LX_Emergency Hahahaha!! ... 10-02-2008, 11:18 AM
hoglahoo Now you've got the idea, gugi! 10-02-2008, 01:18 PM
denmason Yes, vote 3rd party. Why vote... 10-02-2008, 03:57 PM
maplemaker "We are taxed in our bread... 10-02-2008, 04:19 PM
Seraphim That is a fact of life.;) 09-30-2008, 02:48 PM
scarface Yea, there was darkness... 10-04-2008, 09:12 PM
Bruno He's... 10-04-2008, 09:37 PM
Hutch What happened to Sir McCain... 10-04-2008, 09:37 PM
scarface Ah yes..... Sir McCain,... 10-04-2008, 10:30 PM
gugi wb Lou, While you were... 10-04-2008, 10:45 PM
scarface I know naught of what you... 10-04-2008, 11:42 PM
gugi All I'm saying is that if you... 10-05-2008, 12:00 AM
scarface Sir, I fart in your general... 10-05-2008, 01:53 AM
gugi Must be my lucky day - the... 10-05-2008, 02:16 AM
Hutch You will pay one way or the... 10-01-2008, 12:22 AM
denmason Talk about your basic... 10-01-2008, 07:02 AM
gugi Dennis, normally you're the... 10-01-2008, 08:54 AM
Bruno :OT at denmason I wouldn't... 10-01-2008, 09:28 AM
maplemaker The representative republic... 10-01-2008, 01:46 PM
Brother Jeeter The idea, as you are well... 10-01-2008, 02:15 PM
Seraphim Speaking of John Kerry, I... 10-01-2008, 02:43 PM
gugi Actually, convenience is the... 10-01-2008, 08:04 PM
Hutch In North America Elite Class... 10-01-2008, 11:04 PM
JMS The Senate and house are now... 10-01-2008, 11:32 PM
nun2sharp It reminds me of the Clintons... 10-01-2008, 11:36 PM
Nord Jim I don't believe that it... 10-02-2008, 01:55 AM
Nord Jim Just out of curiosity, what's... 10-02-2008, 12:29 AM
Nord Jim It comes down to this: I'm... 10-02-2008, 12:36 AM
denmason The Federal Reserve Banks... 10-02-2008, 01:53 AM
Seraphim I think it is ENTIRELY their... 09-30-2008, 01:58 AM
Seraphim Why am I not surprised Sonny... 09-30-2008, 02:01 AM
denmason Congress has finally done... 09-30-2008, 02:03 AM
denmason Its quite amazing to watch a... 09-30-2008, 02:53 AM
gugi Of course, that's my stance... 09-30-2008, 02:54 AM
denmason Heh heh heh :w YouTube -... 09-30-2008, 03:26 AM
lpj Bailout 2 cents; 09-30-2008, 05:52 AM
English That's what I say every time... 09-30-2008, 09:56 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    Dennis, normally you're the proponent of the thesis that 'US is a republic not a democracy', by which you seem to mean that it is representative, not direct democracy. The idea, as you are well aware is that the popular opinion can and often should be overriden by the elite, when they think that it's wrong. The majority is not always right.
    The representative republic is to send representatives back to the seat of government to vote the will of the people so that the people don't have to individually go to the polls every single time something needs voting on, it's not so they can vote against the peoples' will. Our (Utah's) Congressman Cannon was a prime example of what our legislators do wrong with their sense of entitlement. The day before the vote he was asked how he would vote, given the number of calls to the office saying to vote no. He said that he won't know how he's going to vote until he was actually casting the vote, and then he'd vote how he personally felt. He voted yes. In an interview last night he tried to play it off as the "right thing to do" and said he'd known all along, so easily forgetting his words just days before. He's not up for re-election because he got spanked in the primary for this sort of behavior. He, in spite the peoples' voice to the contrary, was pushing amnesty. In the primaries, the only thing his opponent did was speak against it, and he won by a landslide. Most times, it works when people get involved.

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