2nd Debate...or was it?

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Originally Posted by WireBeard

Both candidates need to step up and stop the school yard name calling and tell us what they are going to do to fix the economic mess - for which both parties bear a huge reponsibility!

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That's a meme that just shouldn't stick. You may as well be asking them to walk on water.

Whole governments all over the world, with essentially unlimited resources, are addressing this problem, with levels of "success" that remain to be seen. The campaigns are huge machines, but with nowhere near the staff that needs to be pointed at this problem.

The best that I would expect out of either candidate is a very rough description of the approach they would take, and I wouldn't really hold wrong guesses against them. The game is to put all the info together, and try to guess who's less likely to get it wrong when they have all the resources they need at their fingertips.

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Originally Posted by ScottS

That's a meme that just shouldn't stick. You may as well be asking them to walk on water.

Whole governments all over the world, with essentially unlimited resources, are addressing this problem, with levels of "success" that remain to be seen. The campaigns are huge machines, but with nowhere near the staff that needs to be pointed at this problem.

The best that I would expect out of either candidate is a very rough description of the approach they would take, and I wouldn't really hold wrong guesses against them. The game is to put all the info together, and try to guess who's less likely to get it wrong when they have all the resources they need at their fingertips.

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How many staff are directed at the problem is a pretty good point.

Word in Washington (which I believe, by the way) is that Obama has appointed twelve teams for the transition. Each team is responsible for the transition for a specific agency, and in a few cases, agencies, depending on the agency's workload. Each team consists of an estimated 6-8 policy staff.

Word is that McCain has appointed a director for the transition who has made some phone calls. He prefers, they say, to concentrate exclusively on the election.

This is said to be unprecedented. No campaign in living memory has failed to work on the transition during the campaign. People down here are nervous.

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Originally Posted by Nord Jim

Think of it as giving McCain a free home-owners guide to that glass house he's living in.

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:roflmao

To quote Sean Connery in the Untouchables (from the scene in the church with Kevin Costner where he is telling him how things are):
.....that's the Chicago way......

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Originally Posted by nun2sharp

@ Wirebeard,Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! Both parties/candidates are responsible, so why are we as a nation going to support one or the other, wouldnt it be best to boot them both?

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I wish we had more powerful "other" parties....choosing between these two is like having 2 set-menus in a restaurant, with no substitutions allowed.

"But I don't want the soup....."

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We need a None of the Above box on the ballot...make the parties start over. I like how Canada and other nations have a short election season. If you can't make your point in a month or so, what makes you think subjecting us to 6months+ of B.S. is going to make it clearer?

:gth

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Originally Posted by ScottS

The best that I would expect out of either candidate is a very rough description of the approach they would take, and I wouldn't really hold wrong guesses against them. The game is to put all the info together, and try to guess who's less likely to get it wrong when they have all the resources they need at their fingertips.

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I'd be happy with that...instead we get "He's a terrorist" or "He's in the pocket of big oil".....blech.

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Originally Posted by Nord Jim

Word in Washington (which I believe, by the way) is that Obama has appointed twelve teams for the transition. Each team is responsible for the transition for a specific agency, and in a few cases, agencies, depending on the agency's workload. Each team consists of an estimated 6-8 policy staff.

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From what I understand the academic economists are actually pretty impressed with the Obama economics team.


I cam across a team photo of the McCain advertising team

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/im...er-Posters.jpg

The other alternative parties need our support to grow, dump the mainstream and do something different if you want something different to happen. We cant keep clinging to the mainstream parties hoping they'll change, it reminds me of a woman making excuses for her abusive spouse, hoping he'll change. he wont and neither will they. Until we as a people dump them.

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