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    Default 2nd Debate...or was it?

    Was it just me or did tonight's entertainment sound like a replay of the 1st debate?

    Both had trouble answering the questions without a lot of blah, blah, blah in front of it....

    If I never hear someone say "My Friends..." again, that will be fine.

    Obama seemed very adept at taking the long way around to the answer - if at all; McCain just kept reiterating things from the last debate that have since been proven wrong.

    My ears are bleeding...excuse me while I go get some Kleenex.......



    At least there was no winking.....

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    All these debate formats suck and play to the attention span challenged electorate. What is your Health Care Policy you have 1 minute, What is your Financial Policy you have one minute. These things aren't about entertainment, they should be about getting details. That said seeing as this format was suppose to favor McCain I don't think he really made and progress, he was flat amazingly he seemed to suffer with Foreign Policy which is suppose to be his forte. Obama seemed stronger on foreign policy, he looked a little uncomfortable at the start, but seemed to warm up as it it went on.

    McCain being down needed to win big and I don't think he did it tonight. He has another chance.

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    Thank God for these two things:
    I am an Independent and I was too busy to watch tweedledum and tweedle dee. <<<< this is for you, love sarah

    @hutch, if they had more time how much more blah blah do think we would have heard? If you wanted to hear something intelligent we shouldve stuck with Ron Paul!
    Last edited by nun2sharp; 10-08-2008 at 03:02 AM.
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    What you need is the people asking the questions to be allowed the follow up, that's how you hold their feet to the fire and get an answer. I agree just giving them more time to ramble really serves very little.

    Is that my new moniker "love sarah@hutch" I like it.

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    Is that my new moniker "love sarah@hutch" I like it.[/quote]

    Sorry didnt mean to be insulting, was doing a quick edit, I hope you appreciate the new/improved edited version. just the same
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain

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    Honestly, if you haven't made up your mind as of this date

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    Believe it or not there are some people that will decide when they get the ballot in their hands. Republicans for the most part know who they'll vote for, Democrats know who they'll voter for, the undecided are just that.

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    Well, I guess, now both sides would claim they 'won' and then there'll be some more polls that'll demonstrate that some people must have interesting definitions of victory.
    Tom Brokaw's strategy to reign it in failed flat on its face. He thought he'd assert himself as the alpha male in the debate, early on, but in my book he failed.
    As far as the candidates go - nothing new, which is a good thing. If one of them or both would out of the blue reinvent themselves, they should be rushed into the emergency room.

    Not surprisingly, McCain had yet another stint, just to round the bailout money to a trillion, I guess.

    I continue to be surprised at McCain being considered better at foreign policy - his views and temperament are a disaster in my opinion. Yes he's old and he has not learned much, or perhaps he's only learned how to make a plausible sounding sound bite that panders to people's misconceptions.
    And I'm surprised that Obama is considered better at the economy too - to me it seems that the advantage he gets there is people wanting to take a revenge on wall street.

    I personally think the US government should require/provide health insurance at least for every single child in America. And on the topic competition is nice and all, but there is already plenty of it in the health insurance industry right now, and I don't see how more will solve any of the big problems. For example preexisting conditions are similar to subprime loans. If you take a strictly business approach to those people should be left to die as quickly as possible, unless they can pay for a policy that reflects these risks, which the current state is. The alternative is to be unfair and pool them with a larger group. This most certainly increases the cost for the people without preexisting conditions, but there's no free lunch - somebody's got to pay eventually. Or the government can require

    Overall tonight McCain left worse impression with me than Obama did. McCain came out as an angry old man, that doesn't even has the wisdom that is supposed to come with age. Obama seemed just detached and somewhat nondescript, which I suppose is not that big of a deal.

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    The bottom line on the second debate is this:

    Mr. McCain needed a game-changer. He didn't get it.

    Game and set to Mr. Obama. Mr. Obama leads two sets to none.

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