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10-11-2008, 02:48 AM #21what Dad calls me
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Since it appears likely that Obama is going to win this thing, I'm hoping that in a few months, you'll be pleasantly surprised. He certainly couldn't do worse than the crew we've got now.
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If he does win I hope youre right, the people of this country need a break. Clinton sent our jobs overseas and GW is trying to break the bank . And they have both worked to bring us closer to a police state.It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain
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10-11-2008, 03:20 AM #22Straight acting and manly
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Since it appears likely that Obama is going to win this thing, I'm hoping that in a few months, you'll be pleasantly surprised. He certainly couldn't do worse than the crew we've got now.
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Err I'll remind you of that in a couple of years time, I'm hopeful that you are indeed right, unfortunately I've spent to much time listening to politicians over the past 40 years to have much faith in any of them
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10-12-2008, 05:35 PM #23Senior Member
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An interesting op-ed piece....making me wonder, in light of the behavior of some of my fellow citizens this week, if America really has moved forward or if the electorate will succumb to the lesser angels of human nature. It appears the veneer is peeling off.......
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/op...th&oref=slogin
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10-12-2008, 08:48 PM #24
What does that mean, "if America really has moved forward"? Who or what is America? How does it move? Which way is forward?
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10-12-2008, 09:45 PM #25Senior Member
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Evidently so. Originally Posted by hoglahoo
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10-13-2008, 05:20 AM #26Senior Member
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True...and even more depressing Originally Posted by hoglahoo
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10-13-2008, 01:28 PM #27Senior Member
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McCain is now saying that he's going to "kick Obama's butt," I believe the statement was, in the next debate.
Interesting strategy. I'm not sure what's behind it. Normally, candidates routinely attempt to lower expectations on these things. As we've all seen, scoring a knockout blow in these debate formats is borderline impossible. So it will be interesting to see if McCain has worked out a strategy to do that.
My guess: all along, McCain's campaign has been a reactive, news-cycle effort without any discernible strategy. I think he's using this challenge to win yesterday's news cycle in hopes that people will forget all about it tomorrow.
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10-13-2008, 04:53 PM #28Senior Member
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Thanked: 92 It just gets more and more bizarre..........
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us...=1&oref=slogin
GOP Head Compares Obama to Bin Laden - washingtonpost.com
The head of the VA GOP wants to make comparisons between what Ayers did when Obama was 8 years old? I believe Sen. McCain was actually and adult when involved with Keating, G. Gordon Liddy, Oliver North....
With friends like these ... -- chicagotribune.com
The Early Word: McCain to Deliver Underdog Speech - The Caucus Blog - NYTimes.com
Hmmmm...a 20+ year underdog in the Senate?
Both candidates need to step up and stop the school yard name calling and tell us what they are going to do to fix the economic mess - for which both parties bear a huge reponsibility!
(I would like to hear something tangible...along with something involving tar, feathers, prison time for some of the folks leading these banks, lending institutions, etc.)
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10-13-2008, 05:10 PM #29Senior Member
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Obama is set to give a major policy speech today that's supposed to do just that. Originally Posted by WireBeard
I don't think Obama has been participating in the name-calling, to be perfectly honest. He issued the Keating video in response to McCain and Palin ramping up the personal attacks -- sort of a shot across their bow as if to say, Oh, really, you want to play this that way? Think of it as giving McCain a free home-owners guide to that glass house he's living in.
Obviously, Obama had the video in his hip pocket for this eventuality. Unlike Kerry, who just let the Republicans take shot after shot with no response, as soon as they started it this time, Obama had a strong response ready. That alone was impressive -- the guy just has this thing planned to a T. It's one of the things I like about him.
We'll wait to see what Obama says, and also how McCain is going to make the current economic crisis the fault of the Democrats.
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10-13-2008, 05:11 PM #30what Dad calls me
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@ Wirebeard,Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! Both parties/candidates are responsible, so why are we as a nation going to support one or the other, wouldnt it be best to boot them both?
It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain
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