Right now Tam you need all the help you can get in this dominated forum - and please don't be nasty to Big Red, no steroid rage or handbags at dawn :ziplip:
cheers
Stephen
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Right now Tam you need all the help you can get in this dominated forum - and please don't be nasty to Big Red, no steroid rage or handbags at dawn :ziplip:
cheers
Stephen
Put it another way. Are five different razors necessary?Quote:
Originally Posted by kilowattkid
(More like minimum.)
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Originally Posted by AlanII
Well, yeah.
With all those shampoos, lotions, hair sprays and such, where am I supposed to put all my aftershaves, soaps and badger brushes. :rofl2:
First of all Mark, Zib doesn't deserves to be 'laid into' for anything he said here. I don't even think he was 'laid into' in the least bit either.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMS
Second- who are you to tell this man that he doesn't love this woman??? You have NO IDEA what his (or anyone else's) situation really is on a day to day basis. He can post about his problems wherever he wants to. THAT is his choice. It doesn't display any lack of love. Maybe on the other hand you've never experienced love so can't speak personally about the struggles that come along with it. Get rid of that holier than thou attitude and then maybe your contribution to this thread can be taken a little more seriously.
EDIT: Not a personal attack here- I like Mark, I really do. Just think that his post was way off.
How many hail mary's must I say to be absolved of the sin of speaking my mind Alex?:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Philadelph
13 'hail sciences' Mark. That's all. I'll start you off...Quote:
Originally Posted by JMS
"Hail science, full of grace, the proof is with you..."
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Originally Posted by Philadelph
YAY, we're gonna have fun today! (And thanks for the kind words, guys, I appreciate them!)Quote:
Originally Posted by kilowattkid
Yes, and here are their respective functions:
1. Is for basic hair washing
2. Is to wash that last man right outta our hair (the one I mentioned in my 1st post on this thread.)A
3. Is because it smelled really wonderful at the store so we bought it
4. Is our travel shampoo (this would be the tiny bottle)
5. Is the one we know you love the way it smells so we save it for those special times!
:D
Which, of course, brings up a question from me! Are...
10 shaving soaps
9 razors
8 stones
7 after-shaves
6 versions of Thayer's
5 different diamond pastes
4 hones
3 strops
2 barber's towels
...and one basin chock full 'o hot water all necessary?
But I already know the answer to that one, which is hell yeah! :y
That's pretty good. Our marriage counselor told us that men always want to be a fixer. If you tell me a problem, I immediately start thinking of a solution. Whereas women aren't really looking for that when they tell you a problem. That's why Bill "I feel your pain" Clinton was so popular with the ladies.Quote:
Originally Posted by YesSheDoes!
I can't believe this thread has gone on for so long. There are two answers, both covered above.
1. yes, they are crazy.
2. is she hot?
But seriously, I have come to the conclusion they aren't crazy, we are just very different creatures divided by a common species. We really see the world different than they do, and it work best when they try to see that we are trying to deal with real problems and solve them, and we try to address the emotional side of things even if they don't bear on the issues. But it's an ongoing struggle for both sides to understand the other. Having had two daughters has opened my eyes - the differences between men and women start from the beginning - it's not societal programming.
My one piece of unsolicited advice - if there is a major incompatibility in your relationship, don't drag it out - those get worse not better, and it's harder to break it off the longer you wait. If you just fight like hell but agree on the important things (money sex children) then it's ok.
How comes that, when someone of the members has a problem with a razor he bought, everyone always advices to talk to the vendor first and try to reach a friendly agreement, while on matters of the heart we cannot exceed stereotype thinking and typical male truisms?Quote:
Originally Posted by Philadelph
Imo, there's only one useful platitude on this topic: "Love is a verb". Listen more than you talk, and try to be close to each other in the things you both share and give each other room in the things you don't share. Be passionate at night and friendly in the morning. That goes a long way.
All the best,
Bart.
If you are upset by what you believe is mysogyny in this thread, then please stay away from Men Are Better Than Women, by Dick Masterson :fim:
(For what it's worth I have a theory that Dick Masterson is really a lesbian with a fake moustache having a laugh at everybody's expense! :rofl2: )
It's a bit harsh to accuse us of mysogyny for making a joke ortwo at women's expense. Us men have to put up with more insults than women. When was the last time you watched through a commercial break on TV without there being at least one advert portraying a man as an idiot? Equality of the sexes is a great idea, I hope we men get it one day.
Better yet find a sitcom about a family relationship where the guy isn't as a moron. The simpsons, Family Guy, That Tim Allen show, Something about Raymond, the list goes on and on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rajagra
a question, if you're worried about your razors, have you had something in the past she messed up to spite you? sounds like it, or a previous girlfriend.
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This one hasn't done anything like that, but I was with a woman previously who did stuff like that. I just wasn't taking any chances. Don't get me wrong, There's lots of sutff she can tear up if she wants. My jeep, my Harley, My Japanese Katana's, etc, etc, etc...since this is a razor forum, it seemed logical.
Turns out, she is PMS ing, and as you said, that's no excuse. No one should have to put up with crap.
That's why I got divorced.
I understand where your coming from, but this isn't the case with me, believe me.Quote:
Originally Posted by YesSheDoes!
+1 on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart
This thread has gone on for 60 ish replies so there is little point in me doing anything about it anymore, but I think it is a little disgusting that so many people seem to be ok with belittling women or people whining about how bad / crazy / stupid their wife / gf is.
This has nothing to do with PCness, but with respect. nothing more; nothing less.
If your relationship is so bad that life doesn't seem worth living, and that you can't trust your precious belongins with her, then it is messed up beyond hope and you have to get out. Or would you rather have kids first? So that their lives are screwed up too?
And if your relationship is not so bad, then what are you complaining about? Yes, women are different then men. I'm not perfect and my wife is not perfect. That's part of being married. Deal with it.
If you have real problems, then seek counseling and try to salvage. But make a choice either way and stop badmouthing your wife / gf.
This one hasn't done anything like that, but I was with a woman previously who did stuff like that. I just wasn't taking any chances. Don't get me wrong, There's lots of sutff she can tear up if she wants. My jeep, my Harley, My Japanese Katana's, etc, etc, etc...since this is a razor forum, it seemed logical.Quote:
Originally Posted by zib
Turns out, she is PMS ing, and as you said, that's no excuse. No one should have to put up with crap.
That's why I got divorced.[/quote]
I think this is a female trait - I keep meaning to read Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus but haven't gotten around to it, but everytime I used to see him on TV I was like "yeah!, that's right."
My mom has this tendency whenever she is mad at me to throw things away that remind her of me, or even worse, take all the kids toys she keeps around for my kids and puts them in the attic. My ex-gf used to do something like that - this was years ago but I think she'd throw away pictures. I think it's because they put more emotional association into these things, so that's one way of striking back or telling themselves they are putting you behind them - because if they attack your stuff, it's a big statement becasue they think we associate with them in the same way they do. Whereas guys are like "why waste property - I'm ****ed at her."
On the PMS, that kind of is an excuse - it's just chemical - when I had a gf that had REALLY bad periods, I would tell her that was "her special weekend" and we'd do whatever she wanted, and if she got randomly mad at me I'd tell her she was right because it was her special weekend, and that always seemed to make her laugh. So don't hold the PMS against her. I think in the past I had a gf that made her special weekends more dealable wiht a birth control pill htat jived with her biology. Might check with a doctor on that, partic if she is on a pill because it might be a mix that doesn't agree with her.
Ok, so I got this great wusthof this week.......:):)
Works for me.
1. Listen to them
2. Try a little tenderness
3. Don't shoot all the dogs cause some of them got fleas.
4. Show as much enthusiasim for her intrest as you do yours.
5. Leave her alone when she needs to be alone.
6. Little things mean a lot.
7. Sex is as much mental as it is physical.
8. Don't get in a routine that is boring.
9. They need a change of pace and environment at times just like we do.
10. THANK GOD FOR THEM
Double post!! What the??
James.
You will know when you find the person you love. When that person is sitting alone in the spare room crying for no apparent reason, you will tear out your own heart to find out why, and ease their pain. You will give no thought to yourself, you will not care if they make sense or not.
There is nothing scientific about love and relationships. Take it from me.
James.
This is absolutely true.....until you've been married for a while......then you will know exactly why they are crying by instinct, and either tear your own heart out to ease their pain, or run like hell because you're about to get yelled at for something you didn't do. And you still won't care if it makes sense, you will just care that you read it correctly and react quickly. :wQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo
Yes, most women are crazy, and that is why we love them so much. Imagine a gay guy in a female body, it would just be boring. Or imagine a woman who were totally "normal" and predictable, that too would be boring.
What we actually have is some wonderful creatures that we can spend a lifetime with and still learn new things about. They can make us mad at times, but just think of it this way: a girl without a temper and without any "tricky handling characteristics" don't take much of a man. A real man can deal with a crazy girl and still love her. I am trying not to be sexist here, but an example I think is quite fitting is a minivan vs a roadster. The minivan is easy to deal with and it gets you from A-B but s roadster is a lot more demanding, there are more stuff to think about, but it is a lot more fulfilling (if you are man enough to handle it)
Women are fantastic, different and a bit crazy, just the way they were intended to be.
OK, Check this out, Today she came up to me, Kissed me and acted like nothing happened. Do you see my point. I love her and my best line of defense with her is to leave her alone when she gets like that. I just needed to vent. Thank you to those of you who figured that out. I've tried comforting and consoling. I'm 46 years old, I've been around the block. I had no idea this post would cause such a stir. I think some folks took it the wrong way. Women are different creatures, like the book, Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. This isn't the first time, it happened, and it won't be the last. Men are crazy too, just in different ways. We'll go out and spend thousands on Razors and supplies, but complain about the price of Gas.
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Originally Posted by flyboy
You get it.......Thanks....
You are 46 and you started this thread? wowQuote:
Originally Posted by zib
Us 40-odd year olds still let frustrations get to us sometimes. Until dimentia sets in it always will.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by JMS
Dementia has it's benefits.
and by the way all women are insane that is why they put up with us!
Are all men cold hearted bastards?
I was having a hard day, really feeling emotional and just needed to talk about it for a bit. Did my guy catch the drift? NO. He dissappears for 30-45 minutes into the bathroom, s h a v i n g again...(I swear that guy has more skin care products than I do! I think he's a metrosexual....) Then when I go to talk to him, he acts all defensive, like I was accusing him of something, when I really just wanted to tell him what a tough day I was having, and voices get raised, next thing I know he roars off on his Harley....Woah! Can't guys deal with a little bit of us ladies sharing our emotions?
-Yours Truly,
Fictitious Chick
yes and thank you, we are! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Seraphim
You youngsters are just starting to learn, PMS is only the prelude to the real fun; wait until your little lady starts menopause. Ya Gotta Love Em.
Let's look at this from a different angle.
Since the first time I posted on the internet (15 years ago) I followed the rule that I would never post anything, anywhere, that I would not want my mother, wife, daughter, boss, customer, government official or lawyer to read.
So let's look at the different options
mother
Son, I can't believe you wrote those things about your gf for all to read. Didn't I raise you any better.Shame on you.
GF
OMG I can't believe you wrote those things. I hate you. Here are the remains of your razors, I slashed the tyres of your harley, and I used your katana to poke the fireplace.
Kid
Daddy. Why did you write those things about mommy. Other kids are making fun of me because they say I have a crazy mom :cry:
Boss
We've gotten complaints from some women's organization about some things you wrote on the internet. You are a public face of our company, and women are our primary focus group. We can't risk a boycott of our product. I'm sorry but I have to let you go.
Customer
We've been informed by our PR department that we are no longer to do any business with your company, because it could lead to bad publicity which we really can't use atm.
Gov
(can't think of one)
Lawyer
Members of the jury, the defendant will try to convince you that the death of his gf was just a freak accident, but I will show you evidence that he hated his gf, thought she was stupid, and that he wanted to get rid of her.
Lawyer
Your honor, that man made public remarks that put my client in a significant emotional distress. We seek compensation in the amount of xxxxxx$ for that.
I could go on like this for some more, but I think my point is obvious.
The original post could hve been made in a manner that would convey the same information, but without opening up the OP to the scenarios mentioned above (and without being disrespectful).
They say that what happens in vegas stays in vegas.
But what happens n the internet stays on the internet. FOREVER.
It could??? :thinking:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruno
God, I love controversy, isn't it great!
Been married for eleven years now to the same woman and I have one word of advice "cope". Find a way to cope with her madness, all women will appear nuts in a man's eyes but cope with it. Find a way to deal with the madness. Perhaps if she is the vindictive type keep all of the things that you want to remain in a safe. If she throws things at a particular time of the month arange to be on travel those few days.
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Originally Posted by zib
Then it sounds as if you found the right girl!;)
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Originally Posted by Slick Rick
+1 this will seperate the amatuers from the veterans!:rofl2:
OK, I can't take the time at work today to go through all 5 pages, so I'll post after reading 2, and ask forgiveness if the points I make have already been made...
1st: Dude, bail on her. Seriously. If it's as bad as you describe and you have nothing in common, get out. It's so much better to live in peace by yourself than to live in discord. If she's not wife material for you she's not worth the emotional investment, and having easy access to genitalia isn't a good enough excuse (in my book) to ameliorate all the negative that comes with it.
2nd: If she IS someone you want to be with, keep things in perspective. If the good outweighs the bad, that's probably why you want to be with her, so remember during the bad that the good is better. There are times I think my wife is crazier than a **** fight in a monkey house, but there are times that she thinks I'm the same way. And sometimes it's my fault she gets like that, too. BUT, after 17 years of marriage, I wouldn't trade her for any woman or any thing you could put in front of me. I married far above my station and the good is most assuredly greater than the bad. And as time goes on, I've noticed the trend is for it to get better.
3rd: One time when my wife and I were in it pretty hard and I was just really, really, really tired of putting up with it and really, really, really tired of asking her what was wrong and hearing "I don't know" (which sounds like a petulant excuse to my ears instead of a real explanation) I left for a couple of hours, came back, sat down and said that I wasn't going to blame or to judge or anything, but that I couldn't take it anymore. What is wrong and what do you want me to do, if anything? The answer was that sometimes she really doesn't know why, she just knows that she's damn angry or upset. When she gets like that, all she wants is for me to be next to her. Don't talk, don't touch, just be close and available. Simple solution for me, yeah? So what the ladies have said here is really true in my experience. And again, if it's really that bad, just bail. You're not doing yourself or her any favors by sticking around if you're not committed to it going all the way. Neither is she.
Oh, LORD. Menopause.... Yeah, not fun at all. We're in the middle of it now, and I'm glad it only happens once a life.Quote:
Originally Posted by nun2sharp
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Originally Posted by JMS
yeah, I was happily married for 20 years. We divorced, mutually. She's a good woman, we just drifed apart. I've been in two relationships since, and I've seen sides of Women I've only read about.
I've been lucky.
All People are crazy! Men, Women, children...maybe not children. After all we men do things that are down right stupid...for fun.
Take for example Motorcycles. I love Bikes. Any bike will do for me. A nice clear day on an empty road. pure heaven...and I love to ride with no helmet...safe? no. smart? Def not. But I love to do it (no longer sadly)
My other joy comes from jumping in water that I'm sure holds sharks, dragging freshly killed fish a mere 20 feet behind me. Once again just a bit crazy.
But my other half puts up with me...only explanation that I can think of is that she must be a little crazy too!;)