Some people are just rude.

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06-02-2009, 03:50 PM
gregs656

Some people are just rude.

I'm gunna vent here,

I went to an antique store, fully prepared to spend some money.

Basically, this guy would not have ****ed on me if I was on fire. He could not wait for me to leave his shop, and the things I was interested in were about 3-4 times the price of the things I was not interested in. It is highly unlikely I will set foot in that store again, and I have one or two that I visit on a regular basis and often part with cash - I could have given him regular, if small time, trade.

This guy could not have been less interested if he'd tried. He flat out lied about the stock he had, and didn't seem to appreciate that no matter how 'brand new' a razor might be, if it's no more than a lump of rust now - it's junk.

Initially, I thought it was just my age, but after hearing how him and his wife spoke to some other potential (and actual) customers, I think they're just rude.

shame.
06-02-2009, 04:10 PM
hoglahoo

I ran into a similar store last weekend. After looking around and hearing the shopkeeper's blunt rudeness to various customers (yet he did not sound angry, almost as if he was happy to be rude!) I finally asked if he had any other razors than what I saw in a glass case.

Him: "NOPE!"
Me: "Okay, you don't have any?"
Him: "NOPE! I don't do razors anymore, I don't do bicycles anymore, I don't do-
Me: "ok ok, so what are you asking for those razors in the glass case over there?"
Him: "$120 for the whole [barber] set"
Me: "So you do acknowledge then that you have some razors, but that you want so much for them that you may as well say you don't have any?"
Him: blank stare
Me: "Have a nice day"

*sigh*
06-02-2009, 04:24 PM
gratewhitehuntr

I think some people have their own shop because they are too rude to work anywhere else

one day I had some time to kill so I stood outside a door for about 45 minutes telling people they shouldn't go in because the owner was a tool
I told him I was going to and he was fuming mad because there was a big event that day and his shop was on the main strip.
He planned on a big day.
I said things like " We're closed!"
"oh... the sign says OPEN"
"Yeah well WE'RE CLOSED LADY I'M STANDIN HERE TELLIN YA WE'RE CLOSED!!"
After I had managed to turn away about 50 people the cops showed up.

Of course the "closed" people had gone on their way and I just claimed to be boycotting his business by telling people that the owner was EXTREMELY RUDE.
The owner came out and made a real spectacle and started threatening to SUE !! SUE!!

A cop turned to him and told him it wasn't slander if what I was saying was true. :roflmao

I turned and saluted the officer, gave the shop owner the Hitler Salute and goose stepped my way down the sidewalk.
The guy was shouting at me as the officers tried to herd him back into his store.

"I'll see your rude, and I'll raise it to jackass!"
06-02-2009, 05:14 PM
Traveller

There is nothing more offensive to an antique store,or gunshop owner,or seller at a gunshow than a bargain hunter,or someone looking to "dicker" the price.If they get the sense you are either you will not get the time of day,just cause its old doesnt mean its cheap.............best Regards gary
06-02-2009, 05:15 PM
0livia

Oh that is bad for the business.
He'll learn from the pain of loosing money.
06-02-2009, 05:19 PM
JimmyHAD

I once heard an AA speaker with a lot of years say that how rude/nasty a person is shows how much pain they are in. Not an excuse for the behavior but in the spirit of St Francis 'seeking to understand rather than be understood' Those unfortunate souls couldn't be very happy either in their vocational or in their personal lives.
06-02-2009, 05:24 PM
0livia

Sure thing.
Just as a shop owner you have to train (yourself and your staff).
Its like sport. On the flee market where I've sold for 12 years they called that "sucking blood out of rocks", hehehe
06-02-2009, 05:29 PM
Quick Orange

I was in an antique store a few months ago and had that same scenario. All 5 employees couldn't have been more rude or less helpful. I wasn't in past their closing time, yet they were obviously trying to rush me out the door. I had been going there somewhat often, but after that I never went in again.
06-02-2009, 05:37 PM
gratewhitehuntr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traveller

There is nothing more offensive to an antique store,or gunshop owner,or seller at a gunshow than a bargain hunter,or someone looking to "dicker" the price.If they get the sense you are either you will not get the time of day,just cause its old doesnt mean its cheap.............best Regards gary

I dicker.
I'll get a box of ammo, or a cleaning kit, or I'll have them keep the scope.

I was looking at a rifle once that was slightly overpriced.
The seller was bragging up the scope so I asked how much the scope cost.
He proclaimed it to be a $400 scope.
I told him I had seen it for $120 elsewhere.
He had never heard of such a thing and sounded very skeptical.
"Must be a fake, etc etc..."
Oh no, I replied, the seller assures me it is real.
I assured him that an identical scope could be had for $120 as his interest piqued.
When asked where I had seen the other scope I held out $500 and told him to take that one off and keep it. (he was asking $620)
He was less than grateful at having been tricked.

The markup on guns is high.
I'll dicker.

sometimes it is clear we are speaking different languages
for example
celluloid rot = vintage condition
crazy hone wear= lovingly used
heavy pitting= beautiful patina
06-02-2009, 05:44 PM
0livia

Thats why things are so expensive in the first place! :)
06-02-2009, 05:51 PM
hoglahoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traveller

There is nothing more offensive to an antique store,or gunshop owner,or seller at a gunshow than a bargain hunter,or someone looking to "dicker" the price.If they get the sense you are either you will not get the time of day,just cause its old doesnt mean its cheap.............best Regards gary

I wonder why? It's unfortunate they are so easily offended
06-02-2009, 05:59 PM
gratewhitehuntr

haha

just because it's old doesn't make it expensive !!!
06-02-2009, 06:02 PM
gregs656

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traveller

There is nothing more offensive to an antique store,or gunshop owner,or seller at a gunshow than a bargain hunter,or someone looking to "dicker" the price.If they get the sense you are either you will not get the time of day,just cause its old doesnt mean its cheap.............best Regards gary

I pretty much totally disagree with that. A shop should always be prepared to do business and they should always try and make the sale. There is ALWAYS room. This guy wasn't prepared to deal with me, and those razors will sit in those draws for months.

And anyway, who said anything about cheap? Fair is all you can ask IMO.

The guy was just rude.
06-02-2009, 06:04 PM
majurey

Quote:

Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr

I turned and saluted the officer...

:nono: GW, what were you thinking, man?

THE POLICE ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS!

:p
06-02-2009, 06:07 PM
gratewhitehuntr

true but he did back my position
06-02-2009, 06:13 PM
hoglahoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr

...Hitler Salute and goose stepped my way down the sidewalk...

what is a goose step?
06-02-2009, 06:15 PM
gregs656

here we go

YouTube - Guys with goose step near the Red Square
06-02-2009, 06:16 PM
The0ctopus

hehe... ill haggle at a party store.
ill haggle anywhere if something is blatantly marked up.

there is stores that literally buy old on sale merchandise and then bring it back to there store and load up the racks.

i got the rude feeling just from calling certain antique stores, they were scoffing on the phone.
06-02-2009, 06:23 PM
welshwizard

It's interesting to read comments about shop owners. I've been running my own small business for nearly 40 yrs. I try to be attentive and businesslike always. However, I can say, that as well as bad mannered shop owners there are some very obnoxious customers, fortunately there aren't very many but over the years but they can grind you down.
What amazes me is the vast difference in perception there can be between one customer and another. I know my prices are fair and comparable and many customers tell me so, but occasionally someone will ask for a large discount. I get the feeling that that type of person may tell as many people as possible that my price is too high or my attitude unreasonable.
06-02-2009, 06:35 PM
TexasBob

I guess I haggle too. Many offers I make are accepted, or sometimes a counter offer is given. Once my offer was accepted so fast I think I should have made a lower offer!

Often I will make offers on multiple items -- "how much if I get *both* of these?" or "I'll give you $X for this *and* that." Sometimes I'll say "I was hoping to spend $X but I can go as high as $Z."

There was one case where the seller asked for an offer, seeing how interested I was, but what I wanted was so far out of my price range I didn't even think it appropriate to make an offer so I said I couldn't make an offer because the item was obviously worth more than I could afford and I didn't want to insult him. He said he had thick skin so go ahead and insult. I offered just under one third of the asking price and got it!
06-02-2009, 06:46 PM
gregs656

I didn't actually haggle with this guy. It was pretty obvious he had no time for me, I did say I thought it was too much and that I was expecting a price more in line with his other stock and that was that, I said it was a shame and left.

I wonder how long those razors had been sat there. He had 8 unused 'Tennis' Razors that were in the box they were delieved in, and they were all nothing more but rust. A real shame.
06-02-2009, 07:03 PM
gratewhitehuntr

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregs656

here we go

YouTube - Guys with goose step near the Red Square

those Russians are old news and bad marchers

check out these guys @:47

YouTube - 북한 - DPRK MARCH (KIM JONG IL, North Korea power!)
06-02-2009, 07:13 PM
gratewhitehuntr

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshwizard

I know my prices are fair and comparable and many customers tell me so, but occasionally someone will ask for a large discount. I get the feeling that that type of person may tell as many people as possible that my price is too high or my attitude unreasonable.

We had a yard sale (where yo pile your crap in the lawn and try to get a dollar for it) recently and noticed that certain customers like to haggle a little too much.

Specifically people from Haiti.

Everything they picked up they wanted for a quarter.
EVERYTHING!!

shoes --- you take a qwata?
electric drill -- you take a qwata?

finally when he picked up a stack of Beatles records and asked me if I would take a "qwata" for each I asked him to let me see them.
Records in hand I told him to GET THE OUT OF MY ***** :rant: YARD.

I guess sometimes I know how the shop owner feels ! LOL

oh come on, like you guys are surpised to hear me say I kicked someone out of my yard at a rummage sale

"qwata"?
why the F would I put a $40 tag on it and then take 25 cents??? :rant:

EDIT I like Haitians, but have seen this at every yard sale I've had, from every Haitian who has come.
I'm suggesting that the excessive haggling might be cultural (like Asians, they expect you to dicker)
06-02-2009, 07:17 PM
0livia

40.00 for a stack of Beatles records?
I guess I would have left for minute and come back with a cup of coffee for you.
06-02-2009, 07:24 PM
gratewhitehuntr

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0livia

40.00 for a stack of Beatles records?
I guess I would have left for minute and come back with a cup of coffee for you.

no that was just an example and the Beatles were like 50 cents each
I think he really offered $5 for a table saw I had $40 on
he also offered $20 for a shotgun I was selling for $300 (and a deal then even)
THEN he insulted the Beatles

now I see them coming and when asked to lower I state that "the price is on it" and just go back to what I was doing (probably nothing)

EDIT
when I say see them coming I mean they drive a $50,000 truck with $3000 rims
so you can tell who they are
06-02-2009, 07:46 PM
0livia

0.50 is even better, then its a coffee and a look into a collector's index!
Cruelty v2.0, hehehe
06-02-2009, 08:49 PM
Bruno

Quote:

Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr

haha

just because it's old doesn't make it expensive !!!

True. Over here, 'Old' is no more remarkable than 'heavy' or 'blue'.
100 years is nothing. I have shot glasses that predate WW1. Got them from my grandmother.
My parents house has a lot of stuff that is between 100 and 200 years old. Age does not make a valuable antique over here. The old countries are crammed with old stuff. There is >100 year old stuff in my parents house that I'll probably crush for kindling.

For antique to be valuable, it has to be very rare, or in mint condition. all the rest can be bought and sold on the countless antiques markets.
And bargain hunters are not disrespected. Dickering is part of the game.
06-02-2009, 08:57 PM
gregs656

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruno

For antique to be valuable, it has to be very rare, or in mint condition.

Rare and mint doesn't really make it valuable either, not unless more than one person is looking.

We just don't have the market for razors here. These things are still cheap on ebay, and that's saying something!
06-02-2009, 08:57 PM
gratewhitehuntr

I was talking to a clock man the other day about pocket watches.

I had seen some on ebay for a very low start bid, but might be missing parts,didn't work, etc.

This seller had bought out an old watch shop and was liquidating.

anyway, I was asking specifically about availability of parts and Mr Clock was giving me a very nice summary of which things were most common.
In other words, which would be easiest to repair with scrap parts, or find parts for.

he related to me how common certain things were
for example
in the roughly 100 years that Elgin produced watches from 1850 to 1950 they produced on the order of 50,000,000 watches!

50 MILLION !!!!

so just because it is old
it was your grandpa's
it came back from the war
it's the only one you've seen
etc
etc
etc
doesn't mean it's valuable OR rare
06-02-2009, 08:58 PM
Bruno

Quote:

Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr

oh come on, like you guys are surpised to hear me say I kicked someone out of my yard at a rummage sale

Absolutely not.
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although slightly surprised you didn't demonstrate the shotgun. :D
06-02-2009, 09:01 PM
gratewhitehuntr

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Originally Posted by Bruno

Absolutely not.
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although slightly surprised you didn't demonstrate the shotgun. :D

that would range from assault to battery to brandishing to aggravated battery
the last is a felony

I almost told him I had another.... with bullets
but as volatile as I may be, I do know what I can't get away with
06-02-2009, 09:12 PM
Bruno

Quote:

Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr

that would range from assault to battery to brandishing to aggravated battery
the last is a felony

I almost told him I had another.... with bullets
but as volatile as I may be, I do know what I can't get away with

:)

Yeah I know. Just kidding. I don't mind people haggling over a price, or trying to get a discount on multiple items. Part of the game.
But people nagging about an already extremely low price get on my nerves too.
06-03-2009, 12:00 AM
Quick Orange

I can respect that many customers who go into shops are assholes. However, it seems like common courtesy to me that if a pleasant person smiles, and asks you how you are, you should respond with a smile and a fine-thanks-how-are-you? Instead, some shop people just eye you and ignore you. Common courtesy is really all I ask for, whether it's on the street or in a business. Maybe I'm off my rocker or just too southern, who knows...
06-03-2009, 02:18 AM
nun2sharp

Quote:

Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr

"I'll see your rude, and I'll raise it to jackass!"

Not only is that rude, but also slanderous, Im calling my lawyer!
06-03-2009, 05:36 AM
JMS

Quote:

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

Not only is that rude, but also slanderous, Im calling my lawyer!

:roflmao:roflmao:roflmao
06-03-2009, 05:38 AM
JMS

Boy do I need glasses! I read the title as, "Some people are just nude":gaah::roflmao
06-03-2009, 05:57 AM
sharpshavefun007

I haven't been in a " rude ":rant: antique store just yet but I am still quite new to the sport, yet I have gone to atleast a dozen shops in the last 2 weeks.
I've been pretty lucky and people have discounted items for me. I was pretty lucky yesterday when one antique shop manager told me he would bring some razor's he had at home to the store for me. I was surprised! this morning I went to the store and he had 12 razor's, I bought five I liked and he let 'em go for a really good price!
06-03-2009, 07:49 AM
gratewhitehuntr

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharpshavefun007

I was surprised! this morning I went to the store and he had 12 razor's, I bought five I liked and he let 'em go for a really good price!

eh... so what were the others?
Pm please
;)
06-04-2009, 12:38 AM
sharpshavefun007

well, I can tell you one of 'em I remember had a lady with her robe or dress draping off of her. I have seen this one before but he wanted more than what i was willing to pay, plus I wanted to research it alittle more. I can go back! I can take a photo of it. What do you think? I don't rember the rest I think they were all pretty " beat " looking.
06-04-2009, 12:43 PM
gratewhitehuntr

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharpshavefun007

well, I can tell you one of 'em I remember had a lady with her robe or dress draping off of her. I have seen this one before but he wanted more than what i was willing to pay, plus I wanted to research it alittle more. I can go back! I can take a photo of it. What do you think? I don't rember the rest I think they were all pretty " beat " looking.

nah
my Rad just had a little flare up at the mention of "more razors"

LOL

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