What grade would you give Obama for his job performance for the first year? Please explain why you gave the grade you did, and what facts/ observable actions he undertook which lead you to your conclusion.
Matt
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What grade would you give Obama for his job performance for the first year? Please explain why you gave the grade you did, and what facts/ observable actions he undertook which lead you to your conclusion.
Matt
I went with a B. While I didn't agree with the bailouts, the numbers now are supporting that it might have been the best choice. Job loss percentages have steadily declined and the DJI (Dow) has steadily increased. I hate the Fed but they did just report a $52B profit, of which $46B was paid to the Treasury.
I'm shocked that we're on the verge of health care reform. I think that those accomplishments in themselves are above average for a year's term. I would have liked to have seen Gitmo closed and troops withdrawn from the Middle East, but I'm content with what has happened thus far and I'm optimistic about the next few years.
I guess if I let GWB set the curve, then I can give Obama a good, solid B+
I think he horrible and has not lived up to anything he promised. We are engaged further in two wars and on the verge of healthcare collapse. plus he has managed to spend more money in his first than any other president in history year with huge deficits from the start. Soon all of us will get our stimulus and welfare checks I hope. I mean who wants to work? I think we should force others to take care of us right?
health care reform=F, bailouts=F, outlandish spending=F, the thought of closing gitmo=F, creating and saving jobs=F, transparency in his administration=F, knowing the concept of "commander in chief"=F, dealing with terrorists=F, calling the war on terror a "man caused disaster"=F, marxist opinions=F, socialist programs=F.....surrounding himself with idiots=A+
I fear he is an empty suit: "All hat and no cattle". The biggest fear is the granting of foreign police agencies the ability to be exempt from the constituional requirements that our own police have in our own country. Very, very troubling.
Remember that RR had the same poor polls early in his presidency. Obama still has time to turn this around.
This is one time I really hope I am wrong. I pray I am wrong!
A+++++++++ WOULD BUY FROM AGAIN!!!!
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I give him a D.
Misplaced priorties, such as attempting healthcare reform rather than addressing the economy, and tax policy, which will prove to only extend the recession and increase job losses.
What appears to be a lack of focus on National Security and the return to a law enforcement approach for terrorism.
Prediction: One term president with a legacy worse than Carter.
Thats what we get for electing an unproven unknown.
That said, McCain was a poor choice as the opposing candidate.
I gave him a C. I took the intent of this poll to rate him on his performance, not on whether I approve or disaprove personally on what he has done. In terms of a typical performance evaluation, a C would be mean that he met expectations, and for me that is just what he did, met expectations. Of course, I didn't expect much and for the record, I pretty much disagree with everything he has done or wants to do. But what he has accomplished is what I expected him to achieve, so a C it is.
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Originally Posted by 59caddy
To be honest we have to give him an A+ on the use of teleprompters
I'm pretty much right with you. As much as the right HATES this guy, and the nearly party-line 100% opposition he has faced, I believe in his policies, I agree with many of his social and political views, and I think that with a little less intentional misinformation and fearmongering, he might even be able to keep some of his promises.Quote:
Originally Posted by commiecat
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Originally Posted by mhailey
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Originally Posted by 59caddy
I would have bet my house that people would have used this thread as an Obama bashing forum. Way to follow directions!
P.S. I'm not an Obama guy.
This is a legitimate question. I am really hoping this thread can remain answering the question and not an attack on each other as previous versions of polls like this result in.
Nobody is going to change anybody's mind and unless you want to show what an ass you are, state your opinion and leave it at that.
Having said that, I gotta go with the D's and F's on most of his policies, but what really frightens me is how poor his judgement is on picking the people he is surrounding himself with. He has been an astoundingly poor judge of character.
Also, giving US Citizen constitutional rights to enemy combatants and terrorists being given access to US courts has just burned my shorts. This is fully insulting to every soldier that ever laid his life down to keep this country's Constitution safe. And take that all the way back to Valley Fordge.
Well, I'm not an American, I don't have many American friends, have never been to America, and to top it all off I don't know anything about Obama - but I'll give him an A+ because before he was elected the majority of non-Americans I know (which is a lot) and myself had nothing but contempt for America but now we are indifferent/slightly intrigued to/by it and its people. I realise that that may seem hostile but it's not meant to be. The image that's been portrayed over the last few years has been in direct opposition to nearly all the beliefs I hold dear. Things like lack of control/self control, over spending, over heating, over cooking, me first, me best, etc. really grate on the nerves after a while. And it's a shame. America built a strong and good reputation for itself up to and during the world wars but seemed to live on its merits after that - and that is not good enough. This is the point where I should really write an essay to defend my point of view but, alas, that will have to wait until the Guinness wears off.
I hope this post hasn't caused offense as it wasn't meant to - I just wanted to say that while he may not be doing the best job in the eyes of American citizens he's sure doing a damn fine job in the eyes of most of the rest of the world, IMHO.
Right, I'll go back to the strop now.
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Your post brought to mind the movie "The Ugly American." (here) In 1958 or so I saw the title in the newspaper and asked my mother what was meant by it. She tried to explain to me how sometimes our pursuing our 'national interest' caused resentment among other countries and cultures. Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankenstein
OTOH, as the USA response to the current disaster in Haiti demonstrates the generosity of the USA in $ and in individuals reaching out is still tremendous and always has been throughout the postwar years.
If the world was a Utopian society and all of the inhabitants could be depended on to play fairly and to 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you' all countries could have policies that complimented each other. Unfortunately the world is not like that, never has been, and never will be. We have to look out for ourselves as history demonstrates.
So sometimes our policies are selfish and stupid. Vietnam and Iraq are glaring examples. OTOH, our intervention in genocide in Bosnia and our protecting much of the world from the dictators who would have conquered much of Western Europe had they been given free reign are high points.
I too have had antagonism for other nations. Being the age I am I disliked Germans and Japanese due to the outrages of WWII. The eight years of the GWB administration made me realize that all of the people who inhabit a nation cannot be held responsible for the policies of their government. Live and learn.
I would give him a D. He has borrowed too much money from China. A major problem in America right now is the value of the dollar. It isn't worth jack and keeps on deflating. Obama acts like he is in Hollywood instead of Chief and Commander
Just curious ... did we owe China money before he got in there ? Was the dollar worth much more before he began his term ? Which president was in office when the financial crisis began and which one began the Wall St. bail out ? How soon we forget.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmyfingers
True he may not have CAUSED the problems, but he sure hasn't done anything to fix them either.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Republicans, Democrats...they're basically the same thing now. Nothing's gonna get done by either side cause they're too busy fighting each other because they're on the "other team" so-to speak.
Take away their big comfy offices, extravagant salaries, and limit the number of terms they can serve in Congress and MAKE them do work. They are not in charge of us, they are our public SERVANTS. Add to that people not wanting to work for a living, and wanting something for nothing, and the nation isn't going anywhere but down.
If nothing has changed after his first four years then I will reflect back and rethink my position as a voter. I still feel that we are heading in the right direction and if anybody truly believed that our financial situation would be fixed in a matter of months then I'd question their knowledge of both our economy and governmental structure.Quote:
Originally Posted by avatar1999
I'm certain that our debt and the value of the dollar would be very similar at this point regardless of who our president was.
if you look at my last grade on him, the A+, that explains why he is failing IMO. which is exactly what was asked..Quote:
Originally Posted by Oglethorpe
Are you saying he has marxist opinions? If so what are they?Quote:
Originally Posted by 59caddy
And you're giving him a F for socialist programs? What would those be?
just ask Joe the plumber. remember his share the wealth comment?Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCshaver
also he admitted numerous times he sought out marxist professors in college.
healthcare reform in his style is socialist. taking over private industry is also one of his socialist thoughts also
He is a disgrace to America, he is a crooked sleazy habitual liar who would obviously throw both of his grandmas under the bus.
YouTube - SHOCK UNCOVERED: Obama IN HIS OWN WORDS saying His Health Care Plan will ELIMINATE private insurance
YouTube - Obama, Which One Did You Vote For?
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That's the total of his "marxist" opinions? I don't see why anyone would make a big deal out of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by 59caddy
What private industry is he trying to take over?Quote:
Originally Posted by 59caddy
So I guess you're against medicare?
I hope you gents would use your sense of proportion when speaking about socialism. From your point the rest of the world is socialistic; only USA and Russia are only not-socialistic states.Quote:
Originally Posted by 59caddy
Would be fine to hear, what you really think about the rest of the western countries. However it was not what this thread was about so let's leave for later.
To remind you. Here is a list of socialistic states. Do you think Obama will get you in this list soon?
Not that I agree with anything you've said but he's still better then Bush.Quote:
Originally Posted by ControlFreak1
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Not exactly a difficult feat :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCshaver
Whatever! You are either deaf, dishonest like B-HOe, or in severe denial about the facts. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCshaver
We owe more money and do more business with a communist dictatorship than any other country in the world and you guys are worried about calling social programs for the benefit of all citizens socialism ? If people turn over in their graves Tail Gunner Joe McCarthy must be spinning like a top.
I have a feeling that some people refer to Obama as a Marxist, socialist, foreigner and Muslim to hide the fact that they dislike the color of his skin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailor
Are you trying to say Bush was better?Quote:
Originally Posted by ControlFreak1
You haven't given me any reason to agree with your opinion of Obama.
Yeah it's pretty crazy. And it seems the ones that would benefit the most from these social programs are the ones screaming socialism. Doesn't make sense to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Absolutely beyond any shadow of a doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCshaver
If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend that it isn't so then that's your problem, not mine, and I'm sure that you've had it for quite a while now. :)
Great thread Matt. :)
I gave him an A for effort. I think he is a US citizen, so I voted US citizen A.
Given the complete cluster **** he inherited from years of incompetent government by previous republican regimes, he has done very well indeed. You can't erase years of mis-management in a single year.
God Bless Obama!!
James.
haha that's pretty funny. And also a bit scary you believe that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ControlFreak1
It's not my problem since it's not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by ControlFreak1
And God Bless JimboQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo
As Tiny Tim would say,"God bless us all."Quote:
Originally Posted by hoglahoo
sharing the wealth is marxism...read karl marxQuote:
Originally Posted by NYCshaver
he has already taken over GM, CHRYLSER, GM has already stated they may not be able to payback the bailout money