Thread: A question on Christian Scripture.

Originally Posted by Desdinova

Any New Testament book that is not John. Luke, Mark or Matthew are not the words of Christ.

They are the words and opinions of Paul. Paul never met Jesus and was dead-set against James who did receive the word of Christ directly.



So personally, I only read the 4 books mentioned above.

Easy on that... If you read Galatians, you will see that you're erroneous in that though (unless you are calling him a liar).

Gal. 1

Originally Posted by Paul

¹¹For^V)'>(V) I would have you know, brothers, that^W)'>(W) the gospel that was preached by me is not man’s gospel.^c]'>[c] ¹²^X)'>(X) For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it^Y)'>(Y) through a revelation of Jesus Christ. ESV

Additionally, he asked these rhetorical questions in I Cor. 9

Originally Posted by Paul

¹^A)'>(A) Am I not free?^B)'>(B) Am I not an apostle?^C)'>(C) Have I not seen Jesus our Lord?^D)'>(D) Are not you my workmanship in the Lord? ²If to others I am not an apostle, at least I am to you, for you are^E)'>(E) the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.

And he certainly was not dead set against James
Back to Gal 1

Originally Posted by Paul

¹⁵But when he^AD)'>(AD) who had set me apart^AE)'>(AE) before I was born,^d]'>[d] and who^AF)'>(AF) called me by his grace, ¹⁶was pleased to reveal his Son to^e]'>[e] me, in order^AG)'>(AG) that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone;^f]'>[f] ¹⁷nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me, but I went away into Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.
¹⁸Then^AH)'>(AH) after three years I went up to Jerusalem to visit Cephas and remained with him fifteen days. ¹⁹But I saw none of the other apostles except James^AI)'>(AI) the Lord’s brother. ²⁰(In what I am writing to you,^AJ)'>(AJ) before God, I do not lie!)

They taught the same things but to get into all that stuff here would require some serious "meat"

The greatest evidence of Paul's Apostleship, IMHO isn't what he said, but what Peter said about him

Originally Posted by Peter

¹⁵And count^AF)'>(AF) the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as^AG)'>(AG) our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you^AH)'>(AH) according to the wisdom given him, ¹⁶as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters.^AI)'>(AI) There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction,^AJ)'>(AJ) as they do the other Scriptures. II Pet. 2

He called him a "beloved brother" and referred to the "wisdom given him" while comparing what he wrote to "other scriptures". That's a pretty hearty endorsement, IMHO.

I think anyone that professes Christianity should think long and hard about flippantly disregarding everything that Paul said. Additionally, the first 4 books of the New Testament aren't the "words of Christ" per se. They are accounts of his life written by men (I believe they were inspired by the Holy Spirit, but that's another discussion).