A question for the pious man.

[thebigspendur]

This is an associated post to the what is evil thread a few days ago.

The question this time is: Does Lucifer have a Soul now or at any time?

[Utopian]

Lucifer was presumably a fallen angel, and according to my limited religious knowledge, never would have been imparted with a soul.

You are definitely a conversation starter!

[JimmyHAD]

Contrary to popular artists renditions through the centuries Lucifer, the son of the morning star, was said to be most beautiful of God's creations. Pride led to rebellion and he and his host of angels were cast out of heaven. On the other side of the coin Isaiah says of Jesus, he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

[Del1r1um]

misread the first time.. It does depend on the doctrines and definitions used, but if by soul you mean spirit, then I believe he IS/was/will be a soul.

[volleykinginnc]

no and yes he is evil.

[nun2sharp]

I have always understood that soul and spirit are two different things, soul being emotion, conscience and intellect, spirit being the divine spark within us that is life.
I am going to say that he has a soul and is indeed spirit. Unlike us he has no flesh.

[Bruno]

no and yes he is evil.

If he doles out eternal punishment to sinners, isn't he doing God's work, and therefore one of his most loyal servants?

If he was the antithesis of God, he'd probably go on rewarding the most wicked of men, rather than subjecting them to eternal agony. And in that case, you could get eternal reward by being extremely pious OR exteremly wicked. It's only those of who are waffling somewhere in between who'd get the short end of the stick.



Anyway, does evil have a soul... tough question. I think of evil more as an influence, rather than a sentient being. Think more of the 'One Ring' from LOTR, rather than the personification with the ram's horns. The idea of a sentient personification of evil, trying to convince you to stray from the path of righteousness imo is a metaphor for the conflict of your own desires vs what you know to be right, under the influence I mentioned.

Anger, hate, greed, ... we all have those things inside us. Things and places can speak to us and our emotions, and cause us to react in certain ways. And because what we do can physically leave traces in the environment, I think that as a result if our actions, evil can wax or wane. I'd define evil as something (physical or not, like a belief) which is exhibiting the influence towards doing that which is wrong. This does not necessitate sentience.

Just thinking out loud here. I'd need some time to write down my thoughts in a more coherent way. But I do have to say I find this an interesting discussion.

[JimmyHAD]

If you want to know if what God created had/has a soul ;

YouTube - What Was Said to the Rose

[LX_Emergency]

This is an associated post to the what is evil thread a few days ago.

The question this time is: Does Lucifer have a Soul now or at any time?

Return question, in this question what is the meaning of the word "Soul".

According to my personal definition the "soul" is a combination of the spirit and the body".

Since Lucifer never gained a physical body (i.e. he was cast out of heaven before the bodies were handed out). He never never even had a soul to lose.

[hoglahoo]

Does Lucifer have a Soul now or at any time?

Who is Lucifer?

The light-giver?

YouTube - Coin locker Alien 1 [MIB 2]