Where Do We Draw The Line?

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Originally Posted by HNSB

I wish we had a 1/2 like button!
The first half of this post is the best thing I have read in this thread.

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Funny you should say that, I found the latter part the best of that post;)

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Originally Posted by Ryan82

I would also add that terms like "freedom" and "free system" are even more warm and fuzzy than "fair, equitable & honest".

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I just hope you were fair, equitable and honest in assigning more warm and fuzzy to "freedom" and "free system" than to "fair, equitable & honest." ;)

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Originally Posted by ryanjewell

nice speech, but i hate to break it to you, you are no william wallace.
i always like it when i disagree with someone and that immediately makes me a bleeding heart liberal or a dyed in the wool conservative. it's called thinking for yourself. question everything and everyone. but the fear-mongering and "the country will never survive another four years...blah blah blah"...it's the same thing the dems said about bush. enough with the extremes! quit taking what you are fed by the party line! quit thinking republican/democrat and think right/wrong...until that happens no reasonable conversation will be had.
i've got my problems with obama and the democrats too...but i will always fall to the side of making sure my fellow man is cared for vs. my fellow corporation.
for as much money as we spend on wars, bombs, jets, etc...all i'm saying is there should be a decent minimum of care for the citizens of this country.

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As much as I appreciate some well placed sarcasm. I can't help but respond with a bit of my own:
1. Who pissed on your face? I was talking to Gugi
2. I don't need any instructions on how to think for myself, I'm a grown ass man and have been doing it for years. Thanks for your concern and instruction, have a nice day.
3. Uh...I think I am thinking right/wrong, this appears to be party line because the left is never right about anything.
4. As hard as you try to appear middle of the road the last line of your post is a dead give away. Talk about the party line! Sounds like a peach of an idea though, let our country be overrun by terrorists, kill the rich people, feed them to the homeless, and take their money to provide free everything for lazy shiftless potheads and 40 something hipsters who can only sit in the basement of their mother's house, smoke another joint, wonder what happened and try real hard to be be a victim or for real street cred, appear not to give a damn.
5. Sorry that people with my views annoy you so. Luckily, you can tune into MSLSD and get a thrill up your leg while listening to Chicago's favorite son tell one lie after another to anyone still misguided enough to believe the Sol Alinski, Bill Ayers, Socialist Utopian excrement that he's shoveling. As for me, being an independent thinker, I can clearly see that the Emperor is Naked. Lots of the unscrubbed masses are now starting to realize the Emperor has been naked since day 1! Fred Flintstone has a better chance of winning this election than Obama but I guess we'll see what we see.

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Originally Posted by 1OldGI

As much as I appreciate some well placed sarcasm. I can't help but respond with a bit of my own:
1. Who pissed on your face? I was talking to Gugi
2. I don't need any instructions on how to think for myself, I'm a grown ass man and have been doing it for years. Thanks for your concern and instruction, have a nice day.
3. Uh...I think I am thinking right/wrong, this appears to be party line because the left is never right about anything.
4. As hard as you try to appear middle of the road the last line of your post is a dead give away. Talk about the party line! Sounds like a peach of an idea though, let our country be overrun by terrorists, kill the rich people, feed them to the homeless, and take their money to provide free everything for lazy shiftless potheads and 40 something hipsters who can only sit in the basement of their mother's house, smoke another joint, wonder what happened and try real hard to be be a victim or for real street cred, appear not to give a damn.
5. Sorry that people with my views annoy you so. Luckily, you can tune into MSLSD and get a thrill up your leg while listening to Chicago's favorite son tell one lie after another to anyone still misguided enough to believe the Sol Alinski, Bill Ayers, Socialist Utopian excrement that he's shoveling. As for me, being an independent thinker, I can clearly see that the Emperor is Naked. Lots of the unscrubbed masses are now starting to realize the Emperor has been naked since day 1! Fred Flintstone has a better chance of winning this election than Obama but I guess we'll see what we see.

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I guess you proved my point about a reasonable conversation.

Gentlemen:

A small reminder here, although the Conversation forum is a bit more open, then SRP in general, we still do NOT allow personal attacks so lets take it down a notch and "Discuss" only the topic at hand, and not each other.. (That is where SRP draws the line)
We don't want to have to close the thread..

Glen Senior Mod SRP

Thanks

If anyone wants to know what the issue in this country is you have to look no further than this thread and the attitudes of the posters here.

This country is locked in a quagmire constrained by an attitude that I'm right and it's gonna be done my way and the other side is the mortal enemy and no prisoners to be taken or quarter given. Our government just reflects it's citizens and the real question is where are the radical attitudes coming from.

Our system of government is based on two sides finding common ground and that is not defined by you give me a mile and I give you an inch. No one has a divine right to dictate to others. That has been done in other countries and the results are scattered throughout history.

If the present situation continues what do you think will happen?

I think the government should provide all services that I deem essential. Everything else is just an entitlement for you freeloaders.

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Originally Posted by roughkype

Good God, Crotalus, since when is everything bad Obama's fault? What is it you can't stand about him, that he's smart or that he's not white? Spit out the Koch brothers Kool-Aid, man!

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Obamacare is 100% Obama's fault. He pushed for it. Campaigned all across the country and then signed it into law.

I can't stand him because he is a President that swore to uphold the Constitution but has publicly stated that the Constitution is in his way and has just flat ignored it whenever he pleases and the chicken***t Republicans won't call him on it.

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Originally Posted by thebigspendur

If anyone wants to know what the issue in this country is you have to look no further than this thread and the attitudes of the posters here.

This country is locked in a quagmire constrained by an attitude that I'm right and it's gonna be done my way and the other side is the mortal enemy and no prisoners to be taken or quarter given. Our government just reflects it's citizens and the real question is where are the radical attitudes coming from.

Our system of government is based on two sides finding common ground and that is not defined by you give me a mile and I give you an inch. No one has a divine right to dictate to others. That has been done in other countries and the results are scattered throughout history.

If the present situation continues what do you think will happen?

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I think Obama is deliberately trying to crash the economy to cause a crisis. He will use this crisis to suspend the Constitution so he can remake the US as a Socialist country.

There are several pointers to this.

#1 He recently revised an Executive Order giving himself control of all food, power generation, and transportation in the time of a national emergency. The order had been in place since WWII.
#2 The Department of Homeland Security just purchased several years worth of hollow point ammunition. This type of ammunition can not be used by the military.
#3 A DHS official recently stated that they were getting ready for a civil war.
#4 In the last two months the White House has re-entered negotiations with the U.N. for a firearms treaty that would ban ALL firearms in the US.

He is just waiting for an excuse.

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Originally Posted by thebigspendur

If anyone wants to know what the issue in this country is you have to look no further than this thread and the attitudes of the posters here.

This country is locked in a quagmire constrained by an attitude that I'm right and it's gonna be done my way and the other side is the mortal enemy and no prisoners to be taken or quarter given. Our government just reflects it's citizens and the real question is where are the radical attitudes coming from.

Our system of government is based on two sides finding common ground and that is not defined by you give me a mile and I give you an inch. No one has a divine right to dictate to others. That has been done in other countries and the results are scattered throughout history.

If the present situation continues what do you think will happen?

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As an outsider looking in, that is exactly what I am seeing and thinking. Some of the possible answers to the last question are just a tad bit scary. OTH have at her boys just don't take a dump in my back yard if it gets rough. Hope it all works out for ya.

Bob