Where Do We Draw The Line?

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Originally Posted by Crotalus

I think Obama is deliberately trying to crash the economy to cause a crisis. He will use this crisis to suspend the Constitution so he can remake the US as a Socialist country.

There are several pointers to this.

#1 He recently revised an Executive Order giving himself control of all food, power generation, and transportation in the time of a national emergency. The order had been in place since WWII.
#2 The Department of Homeland Security just purchased several years worth of hollow point ammunition. This type of ammunition can not be used by the military.
#3 A DHS official recently stated that they were getting ready for a civil war.
#4 In the last two months the White House has re-entered negotiations with the U.N. for a firearms treaty that would ban ALL firearms in the US.

He is just waiting for an excuse.

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Really now, your paranoia will be your undoing.

I heard on some right wing talk radio show that Obama ain't from Kenya he's really from outer space and he's promised the world to some folks from alpha centuri or something like that.

By the way I retired from an enforcement position with the Federal Govt 9 years ago and hollow point ammo was what we had been using for years and so was everyone else in the Govt.

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Originally Posted by Crotalus

I think Obama is deliberately trying to crash the economy to cause a crisis. He will use this crisis to suspend the Constitution so he can remake the US as a Socialist country.There are several pointers to this.#1 He recently revised an Executive Order giving himself control of all food, power generation, and transportation in the time of a national emergency. The order had been in place since WWII.#2 The Department of Homeland Security just purchased several years worth of hollow point ammunition. This type of ammunition can not be used by the military.#3 A DHS official recently stated that they were getting ready for a civil war.#4 In the last two months the White House has re-entered negotiations with the U.N. for a firearms treaty that would ban ALL firearms in the US. He is just waiting for an excuse.

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I think you just proved the bigspendur's point.:)

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Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Really now, your paranoia will be your undoing.

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Hey, being paranoid doesn't mean they ain't out to get you :)

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Originally Posted by thebigspendur

I heard on some right wing talk radio show that Obama ain't from Kenya he's really from outer space and he's promised the world to some folks from alpha centuri or something like that.

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Whoever said that musta been takin' roof hits from the Choom Wagon. Intercepted!!

POTUS or POT-HEAD? Bummer maaaaan.

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Originally Posted by Crotalus

I think Obama is deliberately trying to crash the economy to cause a crisis. He will use this crisis to suspend the Constitution so he can remake the US as a Socialist country.

He is just waiting for an excuse.

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Well folks, after that I think this thread has run it's course......

(I just wanted to get another word in before the inevitable thread closure :))

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Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Really now, your paranoia will be your undoing.

I heard on some right wing talk radio show that Obama ain't from Kenya he's really from outer space and he's promised the world to some folks from alpha centuri or something like that.

By the way I retired from an enforcement position with the Federal Govt 9 years ago and hollow point ammo was what we had been using for years and so was everyone else in the Govt.

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Why did DHS feel it necessary to buy 7 years worth?

My paranoia is based on what Obama does, not just what he says. He has spoken many time about how the Constitution is in his way. His first large act coming into office was the takeover of GM. This was clearly illegal. There are bankruptcy laws and he just ignored them. Where does the power come from to tell the creditors to just forget their money and then give the majority of the company to the unions?

Then the appointment of all the Czars. He just made the offices up. Where does the money come from? They are near cabinet posts and he pulled the power out of thin air.

Then there were his office appointments during the holidays. Illegal. but no one stopped him.

EVERY time the jobs report comes out they report improvement. The following Thursday, like clockwork, they revise the numbers down and erase the gains. The unemployment number is more like 17%. When people run out of Unemployment money they stop counting them. That's why the unemployment is falling, not because there are more jobs. The financial numbers they claim for Obamacare are complete fiction. No one calls him on the lies. The media for the most part just goes along with him. He seems to have no compunction to tell the truth at all.

Then floating the idea of raising the debt ceiling himself if Congress wouldn't act. Then claiming if Congress wouldn't act on spending bill he would act on his own. These are EXTREMELY dangerous comments and show his complete disdain for the Constitution. Congress is the only body able to spend money.

Clearly, in my mind, he would love to have a crisis to allow him to grab more power. That's why the spending spree. What other rational reason can there be for it? The stimulous plans clearly aren't working.

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Originally Posted by Ryan82

Well folks, after that I think this thread has run it's course......

(I just wanted to get another word in before the inevitable thread closure :))

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So are you saying, "The line has been drawn?" :)

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Originally Posted by ReardenSteel

So are you saying, "The line has been drawn?" :)

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I generally drawn the line with the tip of my fixed bayonet anything within that circle is my business and i really only worry about what is within range of the attached rifle.... the rest of the universe does not matter to me.

Fast and Furious. How many people have even heard of it?

They bought guns and let them go into Mexico. They did this to prove gun control wasn't working. This resulted in many Mexican deaths and one US Law enforcement.
Holder is still lying about this one.

The Black Panthers intimidated voters. The Black Panthers put out a bounty on Zimmerman. Apparently if you are Black, Holder refuses to file charges.


Please name ONE thing positive Obama has done that isn't a lie. And don't say Osama. Obama didn't have anything to do with that. That was just a continuation of Bush policies.

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Originally Posted by Crotalus

Please name ONE thing positive Obama has done that isn't a lie. And don't say Osama. Obama didn't have anything to do with that. That was just a continuation of Bush policies.

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The problem with discussions like this is perspective.
Even I, as an outsider can se many positive things about the current administrations politics and actions.
The problem is, my positives seem very much like your negatives