Are you "Furious".

As for the topic at hand: if I understood it correctly, the ATF itself went after gun shops for participating in another ATF project / investigation / sting / whatever.
You can't really argue that it is part of a cunning plan :)

The way I see it, it is a classic case of one department not talking to another.
Like friendly fire in a war, where both parties have been gunning each other all afternoon before they figured it out.
I think is it pure incompetence, rather than maliciousness.

The coverup is a different issue of course.

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Originally Posted by 1OldGI

Wait until next week when the Supreme Court rules in favor of 70% of Americans and kills Obamacare. And November? Forget about it, I for one am spiking football early and often. :)

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Flag on the play-excessive celebration on the field. My crystal ball tells me the Supreme Court is going to be involved in the next Presidental election, circa 2000. Don't count your chickens until they're hatched. I speak from the the state that just sent Barber to the Senate, all signs pointed to the right, but we were wrong.

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Originally Posted by Crotalus

What can possibly be grey about dead people and no one held accountable?

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This seems like an example: http://straightrazorpalace.com/conve...love-rage.html

Seems there can be "grey" areas when it comes to dead people and accountability.

James.

James, I think you just set a new record for hitting one out of the park.

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His rhetoric is based in flawed Marxist ideas that have been tried all over the world to what result. The turmoil in Europe is a prime example how socialist principles are the downfall of countries. Massive public expenditure is going to lead to the collapse of the eurozone. Obama's soul motivation is to transform this country into a European style socialist republic.

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Brother - you got this so wrong it's spooky! Free trade and what's going on in Europe has Nothing to do with Marxist ideas!! As in Nothing!

Bailing out a banking system, governments and companies that are “too big to fail” is all Keynes! I say again - all Keynes.

Some might argue that if we didn’t bail out all those capitalist institutions that we might have seen a rise in Marxist ideas… Or libertarian.

It sure sounds sexy - but boy is it wrong!

If you can say with a straight face that Our Dear Leader is not a Marxist, then you must be on Pluto. Obama governs in such an extra-constitutional matter, that is what is so spooky.

As with my previous post, the one about spirited debate. I fully stand behind my remarks and the remarks of people who disagree with me.

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If you can say with a straight face that Our Dear Leader is not a Marxist, then you must be on Pluto. Obama governs in such an extra-constitutional matter, that is what is so spooky.

As with my previous post, the one about spirited debate. I fully stand behind my remarks and the remarks of people who disagree with me.

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Right on! Don't let facts or reasoning stop you for one second! The person with the strongest convictions and the most self-righteous post wins...

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If you can say with a straight face that Our Dear Leader is not a Marxist, then you must be on Pluto. Obama governs in such an extra-constitutional matter, that is what is so spooky.

As with my previous post, the one about spirited debate. I fully stand behind my remarks and the remarks of people who disagree with me.

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I can say with a straight face that the President is not a Marxist.

Not to get silly here, but people use the word Marxist because it's about as close to saying communist as one can, without actually doing so. And we all know that no God fearing American can tolerate a communist!! It’s true!

That said, I have a degree in Econ, and am doing my MBA now – so these discrepancies bother me lol. For example, if you think that Obama care is because the president thinks we should all be “our brothers keeper” - you haven't been looking at the budget lately.

I guess it's not a big deal but calling Obama Marxist "to me" - is about as ignorant as someone calling a Colt .45 semi... a revolver lol!! : )

FWI - I think I might be from Mars lol!

To nationalize 1/6 of the economy is fiscally irresponsible. How the heck does he expect to pay for just another trillion dollar government entitlement program. You see how well this government has managed Social Security and Medicaid. Both of those programs will be insolvent in a matter of years.

How much government spending is it going to take before these politicians in DC to realize that they will break the camels back.