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11-22-2006, 09:58 PM #31
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Thanked: 1direct all inquiries to lord Lerch and Ilija... they are the ones with all the answers.
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11-22-2006, 10:04 PM #32
I agree with you on this count Bill. The only way ANY biased source should become a required reading is when teaching bias in the media.
The only reservation I have about my statement is that I think that EVERY source is biased. Every person relates to an event differently and no matter how objective they try to be, they can't help including their perspective into their reporting.
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11-22-2006, 10:32 PM #33
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Thanked: 1Gentlemen - please allow a clarification on my recent post.
I refered to an article written by Terrance Hunt. I do not want to imply that Mr. Hunt is the author of the original story that revealed the program in the papers. His article was used by me as a summary point of reference for both date of original story run in the papers and a brief summary of the survelience program. He is a White House correspondent for AP and ran this article to review the events that caused the President to hold a press conference on the matter.
Sorry if there is/was any confusion. Now, I'll back out so as to not antagonize anyone else and to not hijack a thread as this was originally on AlJazeera.
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11-22-2006, 10:48 PM #34
No Armitage admitted to starting it and Novak never worked for the Times. There was a NY TImes reporter, Judith Miller, involved indirectly, and she was fired. She went to jail rather than testify. What she did of a nature you described was feed false information to the Times about Iraq (gotten from Chilabi).
2. The terror program I referred to was the secret monitoring of terrorist financial transactions. A program that is fully allowed by law which the Times and others (yes even the WSJ) reported on. I refer back to an AP article by Terrance Hunt on June 26, 2006. Revealing a legal program designed to assist the U.S. in gathering intelligence on our enemies in a time of war is irresponsible. I don't say cooperate with every government desire to withhold news but revealing legal efforts to get ahead of the enemy is not good journalism (my opinion).
3. Judging from the passion in your post, I will assume we will continue to disagree and for the sake of civility, I'll not respond anymore.
I invited you to provide some examples. The abscence of even one leads me to believe that you have no support for your statement. I find things like that said often because it's "stylish" and that's part of the reason for my irritation.
I notice you didn't identify a better news source.
I'm perfectly happy disagreeing with you because my opiniion is well supported on an authoritative basis, and I'm confident I'm right.
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11-22-2006, 10:54 PM #35
Although this is unquestionably so, it doesn't mean that facts can't be reported in a reasonable, objective way. Also, your own biases come into play when you receive a news report. I'm not so sure that any of this has much relevance. I think the real issue should be whether there is an intentional effort to portray the facts in an unobjective way.
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11-22-2006, 11:03 PM #36
You did not hijack the thread, because it's about media bias.
However, I don't think the article is on point. it exhibits no bias. And it supports my statement that the fact reporting was the same by all papers, regardless of political leaning. My undestanding is that you think it's bad journalism because it outed a secret program. The press is not supposed to be in league with the government, just the opposite. So if it's considered newsworthy, good journalism requires reporting not withholding.
I don't consider you a bad source of information because you had to clarify what you said.
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11-23-2006, 12:48 AM #37
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11-23-2006, 07:54 AM #38
Edit: lets quit this topic and return to discussing things that matter, like razors
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11-23-2006, 07:59 AM #39
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Thanked: 1direct all inquiries to lord Lerch and Ilija... they are the ones with all the answers.
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11-23-2006, 08:32 AM #40
I know!! People have gotten very sensitive lately. I really don't like the tone that is portrayed in topics like this. It's not very nice at all. And that while I come here to.."relax".