no magpie a 72 shovelhead and they don't leak oil they just mark their territory but I,m digging the Harley color theme. and Oz that was really good ,, from bram stokers Dracula, I think you may have named her,, so what will Glen do? I can see the evil genious at work ,, in his laboratory ,,, he just needs a little hunchback guy working for him!!!! tc thanks everyone