A Weekend at Bob Allman's

Finally I have a little time to post photos of the awesome weekend I spent with Bob Allman making two razors. Warning - this thread will be photo-heavy! I apologize in advance for the poor quality of some of the photographs. Making razors is not the cleanest adventure, and I was slightly paranoid about not ruining my camera with steel dust and water.

Bob and razormeisters, you'll have to forgive my sometimes inaccurate descriptions of the process. For a novice like me, it was somewhat of a drink from a fire hose. Bob's a patient man - I know I asked him some questions 5-10 times before it partially sunk into my dense skull:)

A few of you gentlemen will be pleased to catch a glimpse of the razor you commissioned Bob to make for you during the initial stages of its birth.

Bob, you're an awesome teacher, and I can't wait to visit again for round two!

Enjoy gentlemen!

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Friday night: Razor contour was drawn on graph paper, glued to a 1" x 6" x 1/4" 1095 steel blank with spray adhesive. A band saw was used to cut out the larger sections of the blank.

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Saturday: 60 grit dry on belt grinder to further define razor contour

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Saturday: Bob contouring the monkey tail

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Saturday: Several razors rough contouring completed

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Saturday: Drilling pin hole for scales. It must be done slowly with oil otherwise the bit will heat up and fuse to the steel and the blade's toast.

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Saturday: Various stages of contouring

(to be continued)

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Saturday: Beveling the tang slightly to make it easier for the razor to open and close. It's harder than you'd think to keep it symmetrical. Wet grinding was done at this step.

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Saturday: All razors contoured and most tangs beveled.

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Saturday: It's amazing how quickly rust starts forming!

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Saturday: Further defining the tail

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Saturday: I wanted a "peaked" spine on one of my razors. To maintain a 45 degree angle, Bob used a wooden form he'd designed to straddle his belt sander.

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Saturday: Here I'm using a checker file to add jimps.

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Saturday: Bob is grinding a gentle "swoops" into the spine of my soon-to-be green-scaled razor (see finished product pics to follow). It was fantastic that Bob let me do almost all of the work on my razors; however, there were a few times such as this step where he said "Here, let me do this part". As Bob said, "It takes about 2 days to make a razor, but it only takes about 5 nanoseconds to f*** one up".

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Saturday: Scoring the razor's edge in preparation for rough grind.

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Saturday evening: Cleaning the razors up a little with a sisal buffing wheel and 220 rouge

Thanks for sharing all those lovely pics. Very informative for many of our members.

I feel like I'm in the same room. :D

You'll notice this set of images aren't the best quality and are of different razors. Bob says the blades have to go from forge to oil in 1 second or the razor's history. It took photographing the process with multiple razors just to get these pics. Dark room, glowing steel, leaping flames, novice photographer... Hey, you get what you pay for:)

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Saturday night: In the forge at some ungodly temperature (Bob?). Heat until non-ferromagnetic. The tang is excluded from this process so it is not hardened like the blade.

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Saturday night: Nanoseconds before the quench in 150 degree oil. It's a miracle I got this picture - Bob was moving really fast!

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Saturday night: The quench

Thanks for sharing that adventure. It is always interesting to watch a master craftsman at work. I shave with one of Bob's razors and it is a distinct pleasure each and every time.

My understanding of forging and tempering steel (anyone who knows what they're talking about, feel free to chime in at this point:)):

During forging, carbon atoms move into the lattice of the steel. The quench traps the carbon atoms in the lattice if done quickly enough; however, the steel is not too happy about the change in rooming assignments gets kind of stressed out. For some reason, tempering in 100 degree oil works like one hour in a good massage parlor in Chinatown and everyone is happy.

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Saturday night: Tempering in peanut oil for 1 hour @ 100 degrees

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Saturday night: Out of the peanut oil

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Saturday night: Covered in dry ice and in the freezer for the night. It's a good thing massage parlors don't follow this ritual:)

Interesting, thanks for sharing. :popcorn:
Yes, one of them is going to be mine. :rock:

Before I awoke Sunday morning, Bob took the razors off of the dry ice and gave them another 1 hour soak in 100 degree peanut oil.

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Sunday morning: All of the blades wiped down after their morning soak

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Sunday morning: Wet grinding with 150 grit on 8" wheel. Dripping water falls onto the mid-portion of the belt to keep the blade from overheating. If you're adverse to getting the right half of your body soaked with cold water down to your skivvies, you probably should skip the razor making adventure;).

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Sunday morning: You can see steel filings mixed with water on the edge blade. I didn't get a close-up picture, the smaller plate that my thumbs are resting on is a metal plate in which Bob has routed a notch out of the edge. This gives a secure groove in which the spine of the razor rests during grinding. There is little clearance between the belt and the spine of the razor. One has to be incredibly careful placing the razor in and out of the "trench" or really bad things can happen (fortunately no disasters for me).

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Sunday morning: This image is of my two razors after I've done the first grind. The first grinding is done starting at the spine side of the blade. We progressed from the 8" wheel (150 grit) to 6" wheel (150 grit) to 4" wheel (180 grit) to 2" wheel (180 grit). This progression works first the grind on the spine side of the blade then toward the razor's edge.

Grinding is an incredibly exciting part of razor making. You're watching your creation actually start to look like a real razor. It's also incredibly intimidating because you know you're just a breath away from ruining something into which you've invested so much time and emotion. The wheel has to be kept wet, and you have to stop frequently to dip the blade in ice water when you feel it begin to warm under the pressure of your fingers.

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Sunday: So how do you know where the belt is going to grind without messing up the razor? Here Bob takes a fat magic marker and paints the entire edge of the blade.

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Sunday morning: Next he places the razor on the grinder with the grinder turned off and hand spins the wheel.

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Sunday: It's easy to see where the marker has been removed. Here Bob inspects the scratch marks to see if he has the grinder set up correctly. It's a great mystery how Bob knows exactly how to align the plate and get the right gap with different size wheels.

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Sunday: Wow, they're actually beginning to look like a true razor!

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Sunday afternoon: A quick buffing to remove some of the larger scratches from uneven grinding.

So what kind of razor work can you accomplish while watching the pre-game show? Hand sanding, then a little more hand sanding. OMG, this has to be the worst part of razor making!

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Superbowl pregame: The razor is put on a strong magnet and hand sanded with 220 grit sand paper. Trying to get rid of fine scratches and staying off the razor's edge.

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Superbowl pregame: A bevel is set using 400 grit wet/dry sandpaper on a flat granite stone.

The next step: Watch the Superbowl and eat dinner! Do you think we'd skip the game to make razors???? Even Bob and I aren't THAT crazy:)

After the game we polished the blades at 1800 rpm first using sisal with 220 rouge, then moving to a loose muslin buff using progressively finer rouges (600 then 1200 - 1400 then pink no scratch rouge).

Next was scale-making. I didn't include pictures of this as I figure there are plenty of threads chronicling this process.

The finished product:

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The "glamor shots" once I got back home:
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Bob,

Again, I want to thank you for your patience, generosity, and for you and your family's outstanding hospitality!

Greg

Wow, Greg-That may be the most informative and interesting post I've ever seen on this forum. Great-looking razors you've made there. Bob should start a "razor-camp" for grownups. Aaron

Sweet, they're beautiful and I'm jealous.

Jaw dropping cool. They look amazing. GREAT JOB!!

thanks great post :)

ian

Again, great post which I thoroughly enjoyed reading. There's nothing wrong with your photography, being done regularly throughout the process and annotated nicely. I too have a Bob Allman custom and its been a real pleasure to see how it was made. You must have had a great time!

What a great informative post and with pictures!

Thank you.

Great post, very interesting and informative.

Bryce

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Wow, Greg-That may be the most informative and interesting post I've ever seen on this forum. Great-looking razors you've made there. Bob should start a "razor-camp" for grownups. Aaron

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Razor-camp,that sounds like a good idea !!!!!

Such talent guys about the only thing i can craft well other than my garden stuff is my turtle shell clocks, it takes me a weekend to turn turtle shell into a functional clock but thats nothing compared to what you guys did in a weekend. :beer1:

that was one of the most incredible photo sets of anything ive ever seen, just so cool

Thanks for sharing those pics! :) It's very interesting to see how the work is done.

Makes me want to go pick up a grinder and a get treating oven..! :D

OK, I now i have to watch "AVIATOR" again as theropy to calm these obsesive feelings. Great Job.

I got a package in the mail yesterday. Actually, I had to drop by the local Grocery Store and Post Office to pick it up... Yes this is a small town.

The razor is so solid and was so well wrapped that not even The Royal Norwegian Postal Service or the Customs managed to mess it up.
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I like the looks of it. Just like I ordered.
10/8, Spanish point, water buffalo scales.
The wedge is ivory paper micarta.

According to Bob: "It is also the biggest razor I have made"
How it shaved? See SOTD.

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I like the looks of it. Just like I ordered.
10/8, Spanish point, water buffalo scales.
The wedge is ivory paper micarta.

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Beautiful beast Otto. Congrats on a great new acquisition!!

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Originally Posted by Otto

I got a package in the mail yesterday. Actually, I had to drop by the local Grocery Store and Post Office to pick it up... Yes this is a small town.

The razor is so solid and was so well wrapped that not even The Royal Norwegian Postal Service or the Customs managed to mess it up.
I like the looks of it. Just like I ordered.
10/8, Spanish point, water buffalo scales.
The wedge is ivory paper micarta.

According to Bob: "It is also the biggest razor I have made"
How it shaved? See SOTD.

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She turned out perfect Otto. I'm sure she's so beautiful because I gave her a light buffing in her infancy :w

Congratulations! That is a real beauty. Enjoy.

Here is another picture.

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