I am excited about the coming year.
One plan is to grow some HOT peppers. Here is a link to 16 peppers.
The spiciest peppers in the world
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I am excited about the coming year.
One plan is to grow some HOT peppers. Here is a link to 16 peppers.
The spiciest peppers in the world
I've had really good crops of habaneros here. I don't know if it is the climate or soil but they thrived when I planted them.
2016 was a poor gardening year. We are going to move the container gardens to another spot of the back yard. Hopefully an increase in sunlight will turn things around.
When I first saw this thread, I thought to myself "He better not be gardening in January with this weather!" Its about 38 degF, rainy and crazy windy up here...
Last season for super-hots I grew Infinity 7-Pods and Caramel Bhuts. I started the indoors prior to the previous Christmas. I pruned them according to the method found here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43l88CAaEOk
I grew them in mostly 7 gallon buckets.
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I had 12 plants including 4 paper lantern habaneros. In August I was getting this many every 5-7 days.
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I kept notes of the whole process and had a lot of fun doing it. The Infinities had excellent flavor and tremendous heat. I'm not doing them this year though because it really took over a lot of space indoors until I could move them out. If I had to do it again I would wait until something like mid January, maybe next week, to get started. I also found that adding epsom salt with every other watering, along with mild fertilizer prevented them from becoming chlorotic and dropping leaves. I got my seeds from the Hippy Seed Company in Australia and they had great germination especially considering super-hots are sometimes bad germinators. I did use a heat pad to help the seeds pop.
Those pepper plants look like trees!
Just ordered my pepper seeds and two tomatos. I have plenty of tomato seeds left over from last year. I have had good luck using year old seeds.
From the Florida Tomato Growers Supply:
Bhut Jolokia Red (ghost pepper)
Chiltepin
Habanero red
Jalapeno M
1884 Heirloom Tomato
Wild Cherry Tomato
I had a Chiltepin plant in Texas. Moved it to three houses. Got the seed for the plant from a location on the King Ranch. These peppers grew wild all over south Texas. They are hot and tiny.
The Chiltepins sound wonderful. Sometimes small size delivers BIG heat. The red habs respond well to pruning, growing many stems and tons of flowers.
One urban myth about the Chiltepins is they are loved by wild turkeys. Supposedly, the turkey meat will be spicy if the bird has been feasting on them.
Beans and Corn are the target for this year
Along with our regular "Salad Garden"
I am still trying different things on "Glen's Half Acre" hehehe Yeah we named the field
I found a place just north of us that has Sweet Corn that is Climate adapted and they sell Starts so I think I am going to try that..
We are going heavy on beans for the rest of it
But right now ... Snow, we are growing the size of the Snow Berms :rofl2:
You are lucky to find corn adapted to Idaho. That makes all the difference.
I started to order some "Wisconsin" tomato seeds. They were grown by the University to do well in our climate. Did not pull the trigger on them, though.
What kind(s) of beans are you trying?
@xiaotuzi;
I really like your bucket approach. Would you mind telling how you did this?
How many holes in the bottom
Bottom rock for drainage
Type of soil ie. potting soil, garden soil etc. There seems to be an endless variety of packaged soil at the nursery.
Are they 7 gallon or 5 gallon buckets.
Do you let the soil get fairly dry before watering
Our soil here is clay with really crappy backfill. It is a wonder anything besides crabgrass will grow.
Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by rolodave
We had good luck with the Local Seed Blue Lake Bush Beans and we loved the taste so I am leaning toward them again at least in the Half Acre
I might try something different in the Garden, we experiment there more..
There are two gardens? Our whole lot is .25 acre. Not much room. Hence, my interest in xiaotuzi's buckets.Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
Wellllllll that is a stretch heheheQuote:
Originally Posted by rolodave
We have a nice fenced 5 year old garden that we have been working with... That is 20'x25' and pretty well set up now
Glen's Half Acre - Calling that anything other then a cleared plot is giving more credit than should be due
I started by pulling Stumps and Slash Burning in April 2014 rough leveled and cleared by Oct 2014
In 2015 I bought an actual Plow for the Kubota and started breaking the soil and of course found more buried stumps also added more area to it.. I planted cover crop (Clover) for the winter
Spring 2016 I plowed it under, and planted rows of Corn, and Pumpkins and some left over carrots .. I bought a Row Cultivator but the weeds had taken over the area by the time I got it, and learned to use it :(
So I practiced Weeding/Cultivating for the next few months of last season then plowed in under for the winter and tossed out Clover again..
So I am hoping this year to plant a few rows of Corn and the Beans and one row of the Wife's Pumpkins and now that I have the tools and hopefully know how to use them I can get the now much larger Half Acre growing.
I have to do more reading and studying but there is a theory of growing Beans Corn and Pumpkins all together called "The Threes Sisters" that also interests me..
So reading between the lines we have a Garden and then we have a Plot that Glen gets to play on with his toys hehehe
Yes, the buckets were 7 gal except for a couple that were 5 but 7 gallon is better. I used buckets so I could control the soil, drainage and nutrients. I used Pro Mix BX (black bag) for the soil because it has great drainage. I mixed the Pro Mix BX with Perlite about 4 soil to 1 perlite ratio. It's all about drainage, drainage, drainage for the peppers. I put six or eight 5/8 inch holes around the sides of the buckets at the bottom, not through the bottom. I did not use any bottom rock as the Pro Mix BX drains very well on it's own. The thing about the Pro Mix BX is that it has very little nutrients so you have to control that on your own, which was what I wanted to do anyway. I fertilized with a mild fertilizer about once per week and added a tablespoon of Epsom salt (magnesium sulfate) about every other watering. When the soil was dry on top it was time to water.Quote:
Originally Posted by rolodave
In my opinion, most "garden soils" sold at big box stores are either not good drainage or are preloaded with slow release fertilizer which you don't want because it could force the plants to grow leaves and stems when they should be putting out flowers.
Glen, I would like to see the Three Sisters if you do it. I had a friend that tried it one year but the rain drowned their garden.
I have really good soil because the original owner was a well know flower breeder. The whole back yard was a giant flower garden connected to the neighbors garden. He must have brought in loads of top soil because most of the ground around town is clay. Unfortunately for us, the yard is now walled in by trees. Our container garden was dismal last year due to a lack of light. We are going to move it late this winter.
Has anyone started their seeds yet?
I would recommend growing your corn in a square not a couple of rows to help with the pollination. No matter which way the wind blows it will hit some of the others.
I personally will not bother to grow corn in my garden because it is not worth using up the room for the relatively low yields.
I tried growing Zucchini under corn one year and that sort of failed. The zucchini needs sun and only grew out of the ends of the rows. I still had enough zucchini!;)
I have known a couple of people that have had Horseradish in a corn field that they claimed worked if you don't spray the corn with weedkiller. Dig what horseradish you need and then plow the corn. The Horseradish roots then replant themselves and it is a continuing thing....:shrug:
Oh crap. Seedlings.!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leatherstockiings
Totally forgot where we were in the season, gotta get the peppers started here soon. Still got plenty of time, but thanks for reminding me.
Corn is self pollinating, anything less than six rows it's a waste of time. The outside rows will yield the least, but inner rows will do wellQuote:
Originally Posted by 32t
I had horseradish once. And you're correct it will grow the next year if you don't harvest ALL there isQuote:
I have known a couple of people that have had Horseradish in a corn field that they claimed worked if you don't spray the corn with weedkiller. Dig what horseradish you need and then plow the corn. The Horseradish roots then replant themselves and it is a continuing thing....:shrug:
As the snow falls gently on the Cedars hehehe
We had 3 days of Sunshine so I was looking at seeds :p I am ignoring the 4 feet of snow on top of the gardens
Going to start the seeds in the house on Mar 15th this year giving myself 2 extra weeks to mess up
Going all Heirloom seeds, in the garden want to try it out..
What is a Start?Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
A North Idaho "Seedling" :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
I don't know why :shrug:
Maybe the same reason this "St Maries" is called "St Mary's" or "Moscow" is called "Mosko"
I just do not know these things :D
The opposite of a Stop. :beer2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
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Originally Posted by gssixgun
Speaking of Starts, will you be wanting some WW Sweet Starts this year? Just let me know and when they are ready I'll send some to the boonies. :tu
I swear that Texas stole north Idaho's slogan ("It's a whole 'nother country!"). :p
I put up an inexpensive security camera facing the garden to catch critters and kids. Not one catch which is good. Then I got the idea of making a time lapse film of garden over the season. The camera lost sync a couple times requiring moving camera to re-sync. So the frame moves a couple times. This next year I'm going to try and get closer to the same time of day, so you can see the shadows slowly grow longer, as the sun gets lower in sky through the season up here in Washington. I'll add the rain days this season so plants grow linear.
Wife is the garden Master this year. It starts with garlic middle left. Herbs are top right. Beans & pea top left. Corn top middle. Potatoes then pumpkins at bottom. Lettuce middle. Some inedible junk not work mentioning. It ends with this years garlic on middle left.
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onions are in , along with potatoes and carrots. also started our asparagus( almost 3 years to see the profit) but well worth it in the end. blueberries are already starting to flower, and first row of lettuce goes in this week
next week we,ll see what else is ready Tc
By context I thought I knew what a start was, but by practicality, I could not imagine transplanting corn plants.Quote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
Meanwhile I raked about 8 inches of snow off my roof a couple days ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcrideshd
I agree. If you can't get by with 60 day corn I wouldn't bother to grow it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utopian
One of the more liked varieties that I remember being grown around Rochester for a factory is Jubilee and if I remember right is in the mid 80 day range.
For a farmers market the trick that I see in MN is having a field that can be planted a couple of weeks earlier than the competition so when it ripens earlier it is worth much more.
As I said before in a smaller home garden in my opinion sweet corn is a waste of space in comparison to what else you can grow.
Saw our first Robin yesterday.
Guess it is time to get serious about the garden and get some seeds planted.
Have you started any indoors? If you are still planning on growing "super hots" (as in bhut jolokias, 7-Pots, Reapers, etc.) you might be already cutting it very close. They can take up to a month to germinate but can go faster on a heat mat, even as quickly as 10-14 days. And they are slow growers after that. To be able to move them outside they need nighttime lows above 50 degrees or they risk dropping their flowers and will need even more time to go into a new flowering cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by rolodave
Looking at the temp averages for Racine shows you are safe to move them outside in June, although you might be able to risk sometime in May. Keep an eye on the nighttime lows. Then you want to harvest before October when the average nighttime low gets in the 40's. It means that it's best to have them starting to flower by mid to late May, or beginning of June so you can harvest in time.
These peppers are indigenous to areas like Trinidad & Tobago and northeast India where the temps don't fluctuate very much throughout the whole year. For example in Trinidad & Tobago the average temps for the entire year are low of 70 and highs of 90. As a result, these peppers can get fussy in places like Wisconsin.
All that being said, you can absolutely be successful growing them and I really hope you give it a shot.
This weekend will be the third week for them hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by rolodave
Haven't seen one yet here.........but waiting to
A couple of gardening catalogs showed up in the bathroom rack at work!:D
Kitchen Table is covered with empty seed packs.. planted today to get them started :)
Pumpkins
Corn
Beans
Romas
If you want some of the Walla Walla Sweet Onion Sets, let me know! They are available!!! :tuQuote:
Originally Posted by gssixgun
ours has landed and if the rain stops the wife said they are going in the ground in a couple of days Tc
:y :y :y!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by tcrideshd
With that said, it figures that you've let me know that the package has landed BEFORE the USPS TRACKING has:banghead:
I do hope that they well do well for you this year my friend :tu
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Wooohoooo
Starting to pop especially the Corn
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I am not sure we are going to hit the May 1st target date this year, there is still about a foot of snow on the Garden and Glen's Half Acre :)
