cap and ball revolver kit help

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10-26-2009, 06:54 AM
center5150

cap and ball revolver kit help

hello, this seemed to be a good place to ask this question, i got my first muzzle loader a few years ago and feel in love, and i'm wanting to try a cap and ball revolver, and was wondering if anyone knew of a good place online to get one?
i've checked around town and they just seem way to over priced (i mean maybe im going to have to pay three hundred dollars for a real cheap looking gun but id rather not)
i was really wanting to do a kit, of some sort give me a little more chance for some customizing and making it pretty any help would be great.
thanks all
10-26-2009, 07:31 AM
red96ta

Cabela's is completely reliable and have some of the greatest prices...

Cabela's -- 1860 Army Revolver .44 Caliber Pistols

Black powder pistols are also on my bucket list but ended up placing that on hold while learning to straight shave...perhaps this time next year I'll get the 1860 I've coveted since I was in junior high....which, coincidentally was close to when the original pistol was released :nj
10-26-2009, 07:45 AM
ATP

Dixie Gun Works has several choices...

Dixie Gun Works muzzleloading, blackpowder and rare antique gun supplies.

I would also look at Cabelas, Midsouth Shooters Supply and Cheaper Than Dirt.... in no particular order.

It'll be fun! Let us know which you choose and why.
10-26-2009, 11:05 PM
heelerau

A local gunshow should be a good place to find a good second hand cap and ball. I bought a nice Dragoon Colt at the Rock Springs gun show quite a few years ago for $200 US when I visited your fine country. Shoots really well.

Cheers
10-26-2009, 11:50 PM
Kenrup

Revolver kits from Italy are proof fired before they are allowed to be exported. You basically the kit involves polishing the metal and finishing the wood. I have a number of them and they are a "blast". I would recommend this Remington Old Army from Dixie Gun Works. It is much more durable then the brass frame revolvers. I also recommend it over the Colt replicas as they are easier to aim as the Colt only has a notch in the hammer and are notorious low shooters.
10-27-2009, 12:47 AM
aragornelessar86

+1 on the Remington. Much better than the Colts. Not quite as sexy though.
10-27-2009, 08:42 AM
iron maiden

You could also try Track of the Wolf or Cain's Muzzleloading Supply in WV.

I have a 3rd gen Colt 1860 and a Colt Walker....pretty cool guns. I think they were made by Uberti in Italy.
10-27-2009, 11:24 AM
PaulX608

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My CVA brass frame '60 in .44. Bad webcam pic, but you get the idea. Great shooter, I love it. Not as accurate as the Ruger Old Army I had before, but far more rustic and full of character.
10-27-2009, 10:31 PM
center5150

thanks everybody, ill be searching through your suggestions and ill let you know what i pick
10-28-2009, 08:13 AM
DwarvenChef

If you plan to shoot it ALOT stay away from brass frames, they stretch a bit. Keep an eye out for the cheapies though, some are not well fitted and require ALOT of finishing, if not down right "Gunsmithing" to get them right. I have the CVA Walker and an EMF Pocket model, both great to shoot. Both are at the far end of the spectum from each other as well HAHA.
10-28-2009, 02:09 PM
Hawkeye5

Were I to purchase a blackpowder pistol I would turn over every rock until I found a Ruger New Army.
10-28-2009, 02:25 PM
Bruce

Years back, I bought a Colt approved replica - a stainless 1860 Army made by Uberti. I think I loaded it with about 30 gr. of GOEX FFg and that revolver would shoot shot, after shot, after shot, to point of aim at about 25 yards even with the crude notch in the hammer for the rear sight. Modern revolvers are faster and a lot less smokey, but I wouldn't want to be the target if someone were shooting at me with one of those replicas.
10-29-2009, 11:58 PM
honedright

If you're not dead-set on a kit try Cimarron Firearms. You may pay more, but the fit and finish on these is par none.

Cimarron Firearms - Old West Guns and Cowboy Action Shooting Firearms

Navy Arms has some nice muzzle loading pistols as well. Still a bit pricey, bt nice.

Pistols
11-07-2009, 02:34 PM
Croaker

I used to have an Italian version of the Colt Navy .36, which unfortunately chain fired on me one day (4 cylinders let go at once) with resulting black powder tattooing on my hand which lasted weeks. Make sure to put fill the chamber ends with grease after you load! (Wonder Wads didn't do the trick that time)
11-07-2009, 03:16 PM
nun2sharp

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Originally Posted by Croaker

I used to have an Italian version of the Colt Navy .36, which unfortunately chain fired on me one day (4 cylinders let go at once) with resulting black powder tattooing on my hand which lasted weeks. Make sure to put fill the chamber ends with grease after you load! (Wonder Wads didn't do the trick that time)

LOL! Those chain fires are fun aint they!
11-07-2009, 04:33 PM
Croaker

Yep..I was afraid to look at my hand after the shockwave, huge recoil, red flame , cloud of smoke etc. Was not sure it would still be there. Still, black powder is fun stuff, if you follow ALL the safety rules! Grease those chamber mouths!

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Originally Posted by nun2sharp

LOL! Those chain fires are fun aint they!
11-08-2009, 01:12 PM
Kenrup

I quit using felt cylinder plugs and went to grease after I had a chain fire with a Colt Walker. Fortunately the Walker is so heavy and the cylinder so long the only thing that got damaged was my underwear.
11-08-2009, 06:07 PM
Doc

pretty stuff!
Sure would love to get ahold of one of those Quigley sharps rifles!

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Originally Posted by honedright

If you're not dead-set on a kit try Cimarron Firearms. You may pay more, but the fit and finish on these is par none.

Cimarron Firearms - Old West Guns and Cowboy Action Shooting Firearms

Navy Arms has some nice muzzle loading pistols as well. Still a bit pricey, bt nice.

Pistols
11-09-2009, 01:31 PM
Kenrup

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Originally Posted by Doc

pretty stuff!
Sure would love to get ahold of one of those Quigley sharps rifles!

I was in a black powder club in Arizona. We had member the collected Sharps. He had a 50/110 that he would put a hole in a hole in a hole at 200 yards. He would dig out impact area of the berm and recover his lead.
11-10-2009, 12:42 PM
heelerau

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Originally Posted by Kenrup

I quit using felt cylinder plugs and went to grease after I had a chain fire with a Colt Walker. Fortunately the Walker is so heavy and the cylinder so long the only thing that got damaged was my underwear.

As a kid the first time I loaded my late fathers' Remington cap and ball, I used petrolium jelly, ever time I fired a shot, it let two go, I would hand it to Dad, and he would only have a cap go off, took me a moment or two to fiqure I was letting two shots go at once !! have used waterpump grease ever since !!
I sure as hell would like a Sharps, probable in 45/70, I am getting a little fragile in my old age !!:beer2:

cheers the smell of black powder in the morning. Ps made my first batch and put it though my Colt Navy, went off ok, but not a lot of punch. Have to find some willow for charcoal