I just recently received my "giveaway" razor honed by a master, and it showed me just how far I have yet to go in mastering the honing art. Even my other honemiester honed and me refreshed razor just didn't quite compare. So I took the me refreshed razor and gave it five light strokes on a lathered Swaty and boom one lightly over-honed razor. I guess it was as sharp as the tools I have could make it. I will have to give this a try on that razor it might just give it that last extra ooomph.