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Would you consider using a vacuum sealer as a means of quality control.
What I'm suggesting is when one of us sends you a razor to be honed you could vacuum seal it, package it, and ship it off knowing that if it gets messed with a customs it will be obvious as the seal will be broken and if customs need to inspect it they can see all they need to see without breaking the seal.
also as a bonus it is hermetically sealed in case the package gets wet.
That would mean the honemeister(s) would have to invest in a vacum sealer. Also I hate to break the news to you but if Customs goes through your package the item will be completely unpacked sealed or not. Even if you can verify that it was unsealed and the razor is suspected of being used as a letter opener by Customs who you going to sue?
I think the point is the honemeister wont be blamed!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
It would be a sensible protection for the honemeister!!
At least you would know that the razor has been tampered with before you use it. Although vacum sealers are fairly expensive there are other ways to achieve the same goal. The honemeister could use a type of "official" seal arround the blade and scales. If it were broken then that would meen that the blade had been tampered with and could have been damaged. Of course I am assuming that a honemeister would see the value in doing this which might not be the case.
A roll of Glad Press N Seal would be an affordable alternative methinks, and even useful for non-shaving related items as well. :)
Wayne
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Originally Posted by heavydutysg135
You mean sort of like the band on a cigar?
You know, to be honest, I don't know why I trust Lynn. I couldn't give a single reason why any of us trust anyone we send a razor to. What's to say we'll get it back? What's to say we'll get the same one? What's to say they'll do the job we requested and more than likely paid them to do?
I trust that if I send a razor to Lynn for honing that it will get done in a manner which both he and I approve of. I trust it to get done, most of all. If it comes back duller than a bowling ball I'd have to question those between here and there. It's, unfortunately, a risk we take. Could file an insurance claim, possibly, for damage done to the razor. Like I said, it's a risk, but I would never imagine blaming the person I sent the razor to of not doing the task I requested (exceptions, of course, to everything).
My $0.02
You may not blame them but others might. if you ask me it's just a sensible protection against the "not so honest" among us.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianB
Has anybody been unhappy with the quality of an edge and not been offered a free fix? of copurse, that doesn't mean it couldn't happen some day.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMS
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Maybe I've veered from the topic. If I've got this right, it's not a matter of us trusting the honemeisters, it's the customs agents. I'm not sure there's much of anything you could do if customs does decide it necessary to pillage through your items (it being sort of their job to do that sort of thing with just causes). I would notify the honemeister as soon as I received the razor, however, and work something out. I'd trust everything to work out fine.
My only thought was that it would be a sensible measure for a honemeister to take!!Quote:
Originally Posted by xman
Tony Miller got raked over the coals a couple of weeks back. If not for his reputation here it could have seriously damaged his strop business. What if that guy had made a complaint somewhere else where Tony didn't have the benefit of his reputation. Do you see where I'm going. In my opinion it is just a sensible measure, along the lines of insurance if you will!!
wow guys I did not mean to stir it up..
This was definitely not an attack on honemeisters or on customs.
Yes they have a right to open and inspect but I would like to know about it if they did, I'm gonna shave with thing FFS.
As for expensive the link in my original post is for $30 sealer. HERE
I would think some honemeisters would also like to know if the razor was tampered with.
Knowledge is power,
newbie with trouble shaving.
Is the razor dull, is it his stropping or did customs use it as a letter opener????
Honemeisters, hone, strop, seal, ship, and the newbie gets one sharp shave. (before he duffs it on the strop):w
Example:
I bought a razor from Ivo that I had a poor first shave with, some of the guys here jumped in and said the razor was not sharp. That turned out not to be true the razor is scary sharp and the problem was no stropping, poor prep, not stretching skin and poor angle. I am convinced of this and have moved on, poor Ivo is still concerned about it.
If it had been sealed when it arrived, (We would all know)
p.s. What is it with you guys and suing.:shrug:
Americans most of them...they can't help it. It's a national disease.Quote:
Originally Posted by heliguy
jk guys
Unfortunately suing is a disease. Just do a Google search for Stupid Lawsuits if you're bored.
I suppose it's up to those with their fannies on the line to decide whether or not they want to invest in it. As for me, I don't need it nor will I require it to buy from someone.
There are women honemeisters on here?!? :roflmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by BrianB
No, it's sadly true. I fear someday we will sue ourselves out of existence.Quote:
Originally Posted by LX_Emergency
hehe, don't you love the different meanings of words between two countries that speak the same language!
Nick
Yeah, have to love it. As long as the point came across with the humor.
Well as a retired Customs Agent let me tell you all that when you ship any parcel into any country you should always assume the item will be opened and inspected. Even if the actual percentage of items opened is very small (and it is) depending on the country its coming from and current security concerns just accept it that way. Customs guys have way more to do than play with your razors. If there is any monkey business going on with your package its more likely coming from the courier service than Customs. Even if you put a seal on the item and it arrives with the seal broken and you know its been handled, so what? If it doesn't shave well are you going to just blame Customs or the Honemeister or any of the next 40 or 50 people who handled your package after Customs inspected it?
Its kind of like taking your car into service and putting all kinds of markings on various parts of the car to see if the service guys are playing with things they shouldn't be playing with.
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Originally Posted by thebigspendur
I'm not trying to blame anyone, I'm really not interested in who opened the package.:nono: I guess as an ex-customs guy you are sensitive to slanderous comments about how they treat other peoples stuff :w and maybe I should have said that more explicitly, the suggestion was more about knowing if it had been, and not about assigning blame or saying that someone did something wrong, heck you could even say that they would be obliged to cut something with it to prove that it is really a razor and not a way of smuggling gold into the country undeclared. Again how or why the package was opened is not the point, I only thought that it would be simple cheap and easy way to know if it was, I did not intend to use that knowledge to blame or sue anybody.
I thought it was a good idea wanted to share it. :gth me
Damn, you've unveiled my gold smuggling scam. :)