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How do you guys politely tell people they can't handle your razors? I've tried, and people think it's just like any other shaving equipment that anyone can handle. I let a friend of mine hold my shaver the other day, and when I started to strop it last night, I discovered a very slight nick/bend on the edge. I damn near came unglued!:rant:
I think I'm going to start handing people my Paki, but I wanted to get some tips from everyone here.
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Originally Posted by Quick Orange
My problem has been that no one wants to..:roflmao
I wish. My problem is they own knives and think that a razor is just another knife. I don't know how many times I've been through the "knife sharp and razor sharp" conversations, not to mention the "knife sharpening kits can't sharpen a razor" one.
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Originally Posted by Quick Orange
Tell 'em your razors are so sharp you wouldn't want them to get hurt.
I have always been a New Yorker so I would say keep your f#@en hands off my razor unless you want to buy a new one...:D
Yeah, I've been wondering this too. I'll be living in a dorm, and my razors will be in the open. If someone touches them it could compromise the keenness of the edge. If I was there it would be fine and I could explain it, which would naturally drive them away. But when I'm not there... then what? BTW, I'd leave them out so they could dry, plus I don't want other things in the drawer to hit them.
I suppose I could leave a sign or something.... Definitely opened to ideas. Oh, and I've definitely thought about telling them that if they do harm my razor, they'd have to give me $200 to cover the cost of a replacement razor, shipping, and grievance.
You could casually mention that you have nicked yourself a few times in the course of using your razors, and then, as an aside of course, let them know of your appointment at the free clinic to see what the results of your AIDS test is!:w:D
I had problems with ppl handling my razors when they came over because the kitchen table is my work area and i keep all my supplies in a plastic drawer tower tucked in the corner, but you can plainly see about 30 razors through the plastic. Naturally ppl ask to see. At first I liked to show off my nicer razors, but QUICKLY found out that the first thing someone who knows nothing about razors does, is to see how well it cuts. It all happens in the blink of an eye. They start admiring it in their hands, then they pluck the edge, then all of a sudden it's being used to cut paper. Or like my girlfriend has done, runs in along the top of the table! like WTF!!!:cen She said it was the first time she's seen me mad. She no longer touches any of my razor equipment :w Whenever someone asks to see a razor, i now hand them a restoration project, usually a rusty, dull wedge. If they ask to see a nice razor, i bluntly tell them i don't trust anyone other than myself to handle my razors. and it's the truth.
Heh, rusty projects. Great ideas guys. Now that I'm really thinking about it, no one really needs to know that my paki is a piece of trash, and it actually looks really nice. I'll just couple that with edk's trust statement:hmmm:
Bert, I don't know what to tell you. Dorm+straights=nicked blade and thumbs for sure. The only thing that keeps people out of your stuff in dorms is a lock, so you might check out boxes that you can lock, then toss in some silica packs like some people talked about in my storage thread.
I didn't have a problem last year with people touching my possessions. Then again I didn't have anything that was too unique. I have a collection of playing cards, but we all play with those... I also have the most powerful PC in the university... But it seems they're all a bit afraid of what it can do...Quote:
Originally Posted by Quick Orange
Yeah, I read your post on storage (also replied in it, I believe). I kept what that person said in mind. Next time I saw silica packs, I grabbed 'em! So I have a few silica packs, I think... Not realy sure if they're silica packs since it's in chinese...
Lucky you. When I lived in the dorms, my room was like a train station. People didn't have any problem walking in, playing my guitar, borrowing my stuff. I always got all my stuff back, but they couldn't exactly kill themselves with it either.
the only thing thats ever dissapeared from my dorm room was a fleece blanket. It was the night of a big party. A girl was drunk and walked into my room, liked my blanket and took it. I asked around and eventually got it back. That girl is now my girlfriend :roflmao
And still steals the blanckets :roflmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by edk442
Lucky for me my wife and daughter will not get close to my razors. Somehow I ended up with a bathroom to myself (smaller one of course). So I have all my stuff out with no worries.
I also have the restoration projects out if anyone wants to see one. Sharp but not razor sharp.
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Originally Posted by DwarvenChef
Isn't that the truth:roflmao
You know, Bert raises a good point. We should be more than 'careful' leaving our straights in the open for anyone to touch. We should be litigiously aware! If someone were to come across your blades in the dorm and have an accident, and knowing the US penchant for litigation, I'd say you're finding yourself on the wrong end of a lawsuit. And it's just a matter of time.
Apart from anything, I really wouldn't want anyone to hurt themselves. Until I got into straight shaving and this forum I never understood what razor sharp meant. Now I have total respect for the edge. If I drop a blade, I let it fall all the way. No way am I going to try and catch it. Others will not have learned that lesson.
I think you have no option but to keep them under lock and key. Better to spend a few minutes extra using alcolhol and tissue to get them really dry and locked away than to cause someone an injury (and face a potentially financially crippling lawsuit).
And adding a notice? All that does is tell the lawyers you KNEW the item was a potentially dangerous one and yet still chose to leave it unsecured.
Yeah, I had already thought about what would happen if this would actually go to court. I mean not only if someone got injured but if my razor was compromised and I had to enforce the payment. I found out a few weeks ago that we have a family attorney, not sure what kind of attorney he is, but I thought he might be able to assist me legally on what I should do. Unfortunately I lost his contact. He's only called our house once and apparently he usually calls my parents' office number or their cell... I suppose I could ask my parents about his contact... But they don't know I'm straight shaving...Quote:
Originally Posted by majurey
But anyway, I was thinking that I would not only have to add a "Do not touch" sign, but a lot of literature about why they can't touch it (cutting themselves and/or breaking the razor). But it wouldn't be a simple explanation like, "this is probably among the sharpest tools you'll ever encounter," but a really in-depth explanation. Then I realized how long that would be, and people most likely wouldn't read it... And I still wouldn't know how I would stand in the court of law. If someone here was a lawyer and could provide some advice, that would be great!
I think I'll get some wood from Home Depot or somewhere, make a box, line it with foam, put a lock on it, have some silica packets in there, wash the razor with 100% isopropyl (or marvacide) and finish it with tuf-glide.
You know I read the last two posts and thought they are right but then I said to myself hey what ever happened to common sence. Obviously the courts and lawyers need to protect us from our stupid selves. I mean if someone comes into your house turns on the stove and sticks their hand in the flame can they sue us because we neglected to put a lock on the stove. What is wrong here is by protecting the terminally stupid you are allowing them to breed and pass on the stupid gene and they probably married an equally stupid person so now their proginy are extra stupid. Thank you legal system for encouraging stupidity....:rant: :rant:
I too was thinking that, but people don't really understand what razor sharp means. They understand heat and wouldn't go about touching your stove while it's on. But most knives aren't as sharp as these razors. I think most people wouldn't know how sharp these need to be. They think it's just as dull as other knives they see. And I think, for some reason, people tend to equate sharp with strong. I don't think they, even in a facility of higher education, realize that when something's sharp, there's less molecules to support it and it becomes more fragile.
Providing literature, even if they don't read it, would provide them with the knowledge they need to know dangerous, yet fragile, these blades are. It would normalize it to become like your stove top analogy. In fact, this is the same spearhead argument used to convice cigarette manufacturers that they need to put a warning on their ads and labels. This is also the same spearhead argument used in suing fast food restaurants.
Though common sense may jurisdict that sharp = dangerous, smoking = not very healthy, frequent meals at fast food restaurants = not very healthy, active stove top = too hot to touch, you need a warning to normalize it all. Normalizing is why we have all these product warning: http://www.dumb.com/productwarnings.htm and http://www.edlin.org/humour/usefulwarnings.html
Heh, reminds me:I do agree with the darwinism theory and that if you're stupid, you should die so the intelligence of the race progresses. So I think if you're stupid enough to use your genitals to stop a chainsaw, those future kids of yours shouldn't be present to carry on your thinking. Although genes have little to do with stupidity or intelligence...Quote:
Originally Posted by Swedish Chainsaw Warning Label
The issue with razors is that most people have touched a really sharp knife or seen someone do it, then do a thumbpad test on the knife, and nothing happens. Razors are just so much different than razors people are used to seeing, that they just register it as a knife. What's really funny/sad is that most people don't even know that if it passes the HHT, it's crazy super deadly sharp.
I think you're on the right track though. No one is going to bother listening to you about how dangerous it is. In every dorm, there's always the group of guys that think they're the most badass people alive, and surely they can handle something you shave with...:td
My thoughts exactly!!Quote:
Originally Posted by RichZ
Lets see, they are afraid of you computer so they play with your RAZOR. OK…Quote:
Originally Posted by Berticus
Mason
What you want to do my friend is store your blades with rice. Rice will absorb an enormous amount of water and will attract it even from other materials. I have cheesecloth bags full of rice in the bag I use for razor storage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berticus
Mason
Try this one on for size. A few years ago I was visiting my family when one of my brother in laws spotted the razor I had taken with me. You can see a picture of it above. This moron being a little bit of a bully asked me “What would happen if I did this?” and than started taping the cutting edge of my razor against the sink as if he was cutting wood!
Well what happened was that I did come unglued. And so did he… from 4 teeth, part of his lower lip, and any thoughts that just because he over matched me by 8 inches and 75 lbs. that he was a match for me.
Maybe I over did it?
Mason
I haven't read all the posts, but here's my solution to the original problems.
Store your razors IN something. You can go to cigar shops and purchase used cigar boxes for like $5. The spanish cedar is great at absorbing excess moisture, and you'll love the smell. Save a few silica packets the next time you come across them and throw them in the razor box to absorb extra moisture. Or just use a drawstring bag, you can find them in hemp shops that pot heads use to hold their glass pipes. Or put them in your sock drawer.
The point is - out of sight, out of mind. If people don't SEE your razors on display, they wont touch them. And they shouldn't be going through your stuff looking to play with them.
If they ask to see them, do what my friend Katie does - she holds it up and says 'see'....'no no, seeing isn't touching'. Just tell them flat out, the edge is so keen, they'll damage it if they touch it, and you don't want to have to re-sharpen it before your next shave.
What a great suggestion! I had completely forgotten about this trick. When I was living in Hong Kong we used to put rice into the salt shaker and that made sure the salt remained dry and able to come through the little holes when shaken. Otherwise everything just clogged up and became unusable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruckeriii
Thanks for the reminder, Mason. :tu
What a B**tard! Cheers to you, Mason!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruckeriii
You are now an honorary member of my "John Wayne/Clint Eastwood Hall of Fame":tu
Steve