Straight razors = illegal?

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08-11-2011, 07:37 PM
96firephoenix

Straight razors = illegal?

so I made a post on another forum about a straight razor and small hone/small strop going into a long-term survival kit due to Hygiene being a necessary part of sanity and sanity being a part of survival.
I also mentioned that a straight razor can be used for surgery if needed, and you can use it to shave the area to prep.

someone linked to this: CountyComm - Pocket Straight Razor Survival Tool and way at the bottom, there is a disclaimer that says, "We will not knowingly ship to locations where straight razors are prohibited," implying that they are prohibited in some locales.

Where are they illegal? :thinking:
08-11-2011, 07:59 PM
hoglahoo

prisons, insane asylums, schools, etc
08-11-2011, 08:08 PM
JimmyHAD

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Originally Posted by hoglahoo

prisons, insane asylums, schools, etc

All places that have a lot in common :rofl2:
08-11-2011, 08:09 PM
paco664

california,new york,chicago.... you know... the crazy parts of the usa..... :D
08-11-2011, 08:32 PM
AFDavis11

I would be careful about bringing one on a military installation, personally.
08-11-2011, 08:46 PM
JimmyHAD

It might be the kind of thing where you would have to check local ordinances. Another thing to consider is how you store and carry it. If it was a straight razor with a brush, tub of cream, or puck of soap, and maybe a paddle strop, all together as a kit, a law enforcement officer would look at it more favorably than if you had a straight razor stuck in your pocket.
08-11-2011, 10:25 PM
thebigspendur

Yea, or in your boot har har.
08-11-2011, 10:31 PM
Wintchase

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Originally Posted by AFDavis11

I would be careful about bringing one on a military installation, personally.

I used one in the military for years...it's just basic training that you can't take one.
08-11-2011, 10:45 PM
Scipio

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Originally Posted by 96firephoenix

"We will not knowingly ship to locations where straight razors are prohibited."

As a disclaimer it doesn't imply that straight are prohibited anywhere per se, more likely it is a disclaimer advising that the vendor does not know if straights are legal in certain states or countries, in an attempt to avoid liability should this be the case and a return charge is accumulated or the razor is appropriated.

Alternatively, it is present in to avoid liability for supervening illegality.
08-11-2011, 11:17 PM
Str8Shooter

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Originally Posted by AFDavis11

I would be careful about bringing one on a military installation, personally.

Not an issue. US Army
08-11-2011, 11:48 PM
MickRussell

Again, that would depend on how you did it. Just sticking in you back pocket on it's own? Probably gonna get questioned about that. In a kit with all the rest of the gear, not so much.
08-12-2011, 12:51 AM
northpaw

Guam. It's always Guam.
08-12-2011, 03:21 AM
niftyshaving

Quote:

Originally Posted by 96firephoenix

so I made a post on another forum about a straight razor and small hone/small strop going into a long-term survival kit due to Hygiene being a necessary part of sanity and sanity being a part of survival.
I also mentioned that a straight razor can be used for surgery if needed, and you can use it to shave the area to prep.

someone linked to this: CountyComm - Pocket Straight Razor Survival Tool and way at the bottom, there is a disclaimer that says, "We will not knowingly ship to locations where straight razors are prohibited," implying that they are prohibited in some locales.

Where are they illegal? :thinking:

A lot of places.
They are illegal to carry much the same as any knife with a blade of
equal length. Some places specify razors specifically. It can also
qualify as a concealed weapon so do not slip one in your boot.

I know of no place where they are illegal in the "shave den" (home).
08-12-2011, 03:58 AM
96firephoenix

ok, that makes more sense... I was thinking places that like to make everything illegal just because some people use them wrongly.
08-12-2011, 04:23 AM
hoglahoo

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Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Yea, or in your boot har har.

true, I would not want to end up looking like a jigsaw puzzle with a couple o' pieces gone
08-12-2011, 07:01 AM
easyace

I have to have stuff shipped, mainly by Aramex. They sometimes send me messages that the shipment has items that are prohibited in the country (Qatar) that I'm shipping to. They (Aramex) class the razor as a Knife. I have had the argument a couple of times, that a) It's not a Knife, and b) that you can purchase knives here, quite legally in any number of stores. I have managed to obtain the shipments each time, but I'm sure that sooner or later I'll lose one (they destroy the item).

I have never had a problem with the authorities here, it is just Aramex, playing it safe.
08-12-2011, 10:25 AM
Bruno

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFDavis11

I would be careful about bringing one on a military installation, personally.

Serious? I mean, people have access to guns, explosives, survival knives, etc.
How is a straight razor going to be an issue?
08-12-2011, 10:33 AM
Mastershake

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFDavis11

I would be careful about bringing one on a military installation, personally.

I carry mine daily, but then I'm active duty military, maybe you meant a civilian shouldn't go into a military installation with one.......that makes more sense!
08-12-2011, 12:14 PM
Mike Blue

I've travelled internationally multiple times with a straight and strop kit. I've found the "We was here" papers lots of times. I had a lighter confiscated once from locked checked luggage by an over officious type. They ignored the razor and a half dozen knives in the bag. Go figure.
08-12-2011, 01:13 PM
Str8Shooter

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Originally Posted by Mastershake

I carry mine daily, but then I'm active duty military, maybe you meant a civilian shouldn't go into a military installation with one.......that makes more sense!

You carry your str8 around with you daily???? Why?
08-12-2011, 01:28 PM
Mvcrash

Quote:

Originally Posted by niftyshaving

A lot of places.
They are illegal to carry much the same as any knife with a blade of
equal length. Some places specify razors specifically. It can also
qualify as a concealed weapon so do not slip one in your boot.

I know of no place where they are illegal in the "shave den" (home).

I know of know law which indicates the length of the blade is the deciding factor in determining legality. From what I know and understand it is the legitimate use of the knife that matters. IE: a Chef with a chef's knife, no matter the size, is a legitimate use. As you indicate, if it is in your boot, you may run afoul of the local Popo.

I arrested a guy and charged him with armed robbery when he had stolen about 20 bucks worth of cigarettes during which he was in possession of a pen knife, the blade was no longer than 1.5 inches. Granted, the guy was not a nice person and needed jailing for a long time, but the possession of a "concealed weapon" during a theft bumped if from 3-6 months for theft to 5-10 years for robbery.
And some people think Size matters......:)
08-12-2011, 02:18 PM
Str8Shooter

LOL now thats a good LEO!
08-12-2011, 02:26 PM
nun2sharp

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Originally Posted by Wintchase

I used one in the military for years...it's just basic training that you can't take one.

I have lost several during inspections. it seems as if an officer doesnt understand it that it
must be bad and confiscated, you know something is up when he takes the strop too.
08-12-2011, 02:26 PM
Mastershake

Quote:

Originally Posted by Str8Shooter

You carry your str8 around with you daily???? Why?

Touch ups..........and ninjas.
08-13-2011, 10:36 AM
MickRussell

Yes, I can see how ninjas would be a problem on base. Good call.