Guys I didn't realize I hit such a hot topic. Obviously I am not the only one who is peeved at todays society and I see it is not just NYC. I am happy to see that. No, actually I am not, I am sad to see that this crap goes on everywhere. I haven't heard anything from our European and Downunder friends on this topic though. Interesting..... I also find it interesting how many of our wives are teachers.. Do you think that says anything Hummmm.