Wet cut. They come with a pump system that you either hook up to a water hose or it draws from a 55 gallon barrel of water set up behind it. We'd cut hundreds of brick on one barrel.
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Wet cut. They come with a pump system that you either hook up to a water hose or it draws from a 55 gallon barrel of water set up behind it. We'd cut hundreds of brick on one barrel.
A 3 inch cut depth is what I need really as thats about as wide as I need to go on a hone and means much less lapping if u can do a single cut. Its nearly impossible to cut flat if you have to make 2 cuts.
Some tile saws just draw from the tray under the saw rails, but I never really liked the idea of cycling that water back through the pump. You can also look at your local industrial equipment rental company like Sunbelt or United. They sometimes carry these saws if you want to try one out.
True on the rentals, I just want one for use when I want it, id have to have a stock pile of rock to make it viable to rent.
you can often get weekend deals on tool rentals and if you wait for a long weekend you usually get the extra day for free. When I used to go work on the mainland regularly it was cheap to rent and easier for small jobs than hauling it all the way there and back. I had most of my gear left over from when I was a contractor. You are right about needing the 10" saw too, some of them will actually cut 3 1/2", which is handy to have a small buffer. It never is much fun it you jam the rock agains t the thrust washer.
Finished it....trial run in 45 minutes when I close the barber shop.
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Pink in a rock? Iron can stain a rock reddish in various hues. True pink often times comes from Lithium and can be associated with Tourmaline which is found in some Slate.Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog
Slate can have all kinds of things in it so it depends what the minerals are.
Well, initial test, test razor needing touch up had the tug going on and did not pass hht or tree top arm hairs prior to test honing on the new slate I lapped out today. Afterwards, passed hht, no tug arm hair tree topper, and gave me possibly the closest shave I have had in a while. I only shave wtg on my face and it gave me a nearly bbs shave wtg.
This snow white slurrying hone is definitely some good stuff....
It's good to get on a roll.
The black slate I've previously used is quite a bit softer, but also slower than this stone. Reminds me a lot of the dark slate honestly as far as the edge goes though. This stone has far more very tiny sparkles in it, which show up a bit in the picture...the razor I used it on has a highly mirrored bevel off of it with no scratch pattern at all, I have no problem rating it at a 12-15k range based on the shave off this stone today and the fact it removed any sign of a scratch pattern.Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog
Gotta do more testing when I get a chance obviously as 1 honing doesnt show its potential, only used water without slurry as well, going to prep a matching slurry stone tonight as well.
Modine...if you read this, ill probably send this stone out to you with the other one for testing and feedback as well, your reviews are always so good and I'd love your input.
It looks fantastic Dennis.
How thick did you make the stone. And what sort of density/weight is it?
I'm heading out to York today, for our summer Christmas dinner. We do it every year since our family is spread all over now and meeting in December means we never all get to the same spot at the same time.
The location we will meet will be Malton. There is some interesting Geology in the area, And some Ancient British history. Namely there are some chariot burials in Wetwang from the pre-roman celts.
I'm going to have a wander down the river Derwent if I get chance. And see if I can spot anything of interest. I thick my target should be the Scalby formation.
http://www.bgs.ac.uk/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?pub=SCY
5 15/16"x 1 5/8" x 9/16"
Density might be hard to guage unless I lap both sides....may do it nearly flat though or do water displacement if u want more info.
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Based on the color differences on the backside...I may lap it anyways....its frigging beautiful stuff. Only issue is it is a thin layer and softer than the other side.
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I think it is amazing how fast rock can change, in density, color and hardness.
The blue side is soft but far harder than a king 6k, but far softer than the other side of the stone which took me a couple hours to lap flat.Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog
I agree, especially noticable in some coticules, I may stop back at my spot tonight on the way home for some of this rock and see what is lying around and get a closer look at the cutout in the rock face, id love to find a thick layer of that light turquoise colored slate in that last pic, the more blue layers are in that area though the more fractured it is so it makes it difficult. Too bad I couldnt have been a fly on the wall when they cut the road out there, I woulda had enough stone to have a commercial setup selling hones from it lol...sadly its probably fill dirt now.
Hahaha. I know that story. The first usable hone I found really rocks and I found it in an old quarry that was used for building forestry service roads. I looked high and low and chipped a lot of rock in that quarry but everything else is loaded with inclusions. All the rest of the hones are under a road somewhere. I still look around in that area when I'm hunting but haven't found anything really good there since. The mountains are quite a ways from me so I only go out when I have a multiple purpose trip. Hunting, firewood, river fishing, berry picking and rockhounding call all get mixed up in a single trip. Typically hunting and getting firewood are the two things I do when I'm out rockhounding. Nice you have a spot on the way home from work. Iceni is combining his trip with a family gathering. Waste not want not.
Ive got 10 spots I can stop on the way home, just methodically picking up some when I feel my HCD (hone crafting disorder) firing up. Luckily I havent had issues with inclusions yet (knock on wood) and all of them have been suitable for finishing razors. Id love to find some great functional bevel setter and mid level grits though lol.
I have quite a few very nice finishers. Not a single bevel setter and a couple of small mid range hones. The mid range stuff has been riddled with cracks. I think if I could find a good bevel setter it would be the holy grail at this point. I prospect every time I'm out as well as go to the usual spots. I'm thinking I may camp out and really give some areas a better look.
Well....I'm good to go on dmt plates after a trip to Woodcraft LOL...
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And here's what I'm lapping right now....has a shallow fracture I'm chasing...hopefully it laps out....I like this bout shape.
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holy moly I hope that those plates are a lot cheaper there than they are here. That's a small fortune in DMT plates.
I had one already....were on sale plus a coupon...50 bucks each after tax basically.Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog
Woot! I love sales on stuff I need.
Well...another one finished.
It was the neighbor to my test stone so should hone very similarly.
Measurements:
long side 6 1/2"
short side 3 3/4"
width across middle is 2 5/8"
Ends are both 3"
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Wet with matching slurry stone
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I bet that is an amazing hone. Great work.
Made a stop and grabbed a piece of a thicker layer from that face my previous hone stone came from today today....very consistent colors and layers and fractures in side you can see where it should easily split into 3 very flat layers for easier lapping (I hope). It's a blueish grey colored stone.
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May be the easiest stone ever to lap...it had a couple fractures and has amazingly level layering after prying it apart at the fractures. Just gotta make a couple cuts first....going to make some crazy nice bouts I believe!
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I don't know if you are a good illusionist, but that rock looks very easy to work with. I think this batch is looking good.
Nope no illusions here...already got
This slab
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Looking like this
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Almost there...
Couple low spots but extra course dmt knocking it out!
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Pretty sure I can knock 1 out per hour at this rate though...easiest stone I've worked with...pretty hard material but not insane
Looking like some good production and some very nice looking hones.
One down...many more to go Haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog
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Great work Dennis, Loving it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DennisBarberShop
Now that I have some daylight here's a picture of the surface off of 320 dmt...fast and very fine hone.
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Looks nice but shouldn't you bevel the edges?Quote:
Originally Posted by DennisBarberShop
They are slightly beveledQuote:
Originally Posted by 32t
Ok. Less than I would do.:thinking:Quote:
Originally Posted by DennisBarberShop
Yeah, it had more but had to do more lapping which took most of it off.Quote:
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I am headed off to Utah. I am going to do a little rock hunting while there. Any ideas where to look? :D
In the ground, Up the cliffs, In the rivers.
Get a geological survey map of the area, Learn to read it and plan your trip based on local "beauty spots" for the wife and kids.
Take a brick hammer and a small pry bar, and tell the kids your off fossil hunting :D
Utah Geological Survey
Igneous, Sedimentary, & Metamorphic Rocks - Utah Geological Survey
Shale: Shale is lithified clay and consists of layers that typically break into thin sheets. A well-known shale formation is the Wheeler Shale of the House Range, Millard County, which contains numerous Cambrian Period (500 to 570 million years ago) trilobite fossils that are found by splitting the shale along its layers. Another shale formation is the widespread Mancos Shale, visible along Utah State Highway 6 between Price and Interstate 70, Carbon and Emery Counties.
Slate: Slate is fine grained, dense, and brittle and is a metamorphosed form of shale. Slate can be seen west of Patters spring in the Pilot Range, Box Elder County.
Schist: Schist has the same satin-like sheen as phyllite but has a coarse texture due to its high mica (muscovite or biotite) content. The Little Willow Formation is a schist that is visible on the north side of the mouth of Little Cottonwood Canyon, Salt Lake County
