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Attachment 161310Attachment 161308Attachment 161309Attachment 161311I am wanting to ID this hone. It is very smooth and leaves a nice finish on razor. I had an authentic Escher and it scratches like that, if that makes sense. It is maroon in color and makes a water slurry.
I'm guessing a Llyn Melynllyn (Yellow Lake) hone.
Must not be a Yellow Lake, but i agree with Utopian that there are some around looking alike.
...my guess tend in the direction of beeing a Vosges / Vosgienne....is it a very hard stone ? slurry is Violet slightly brown...
Would like to hear other Opinions and guesses...anybody around from the french hone thread ?...Thaeris, Margeja, Hatzicho, Modine, Piet....
Here was an interesting Thread with no Solution on the topic:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...ake-stone.html
Thats mine:
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5487/...9a5e6c_c_d.jpg
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I have a very similar stone, you can see pics of it here http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...ural-hone.html.
Every time these come up, the debate about it being a Lynn Mellylynn or Vosgiennes comes up. Still to this day i am unsure of its name.
But one tthing is for sure is that stone will never leave me, its a fine finisher, easy to use and its size for honing at 14 inches is quite unusual.
The best Way to seperate a Vosges in comparison to a yellow lake is the "fast cutting" ability....if you do 10-20 strokes after the pre-finishing phase and you get a fine mirror finished edge i would more tend talking about a Vosges then on a Yellow Lake...
The Vosges removes Material very fast, and could be compared in my thinking to a red La Lune...or in thinking on Barber Hones like a Frictionite...
Also Lapping might be different the Vosges is a very hard and very dense Stone and not easy to lap...
Prom the pictures these two are not the same. However as in original link for yours Martin103 I WAS WRONG. There are purple YLs as well as the name is brand name not the name of the origin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin103
My money would be more on European origin of the hone. I believe Henk in his book has a picture of hone similar to this one.
@adrspach: any reference on the grindind and honing parts from Henk, which page did you mean ?
First of all, I see some light translucentish flaking. And there are a lot of inclusions, regardless if they damage the edge, probably cut from somewhere near the border of two different formations.
My guess is, it's a mixture of Llyn Idwal stone with the rock that surrounded it. And, all this pattern with the dark spots, combined with the flaking, I can't think of anything else.
Of course, since it's not a pure stone it could be softer and faster, but that's what I think.
OK quite funny now, we have to choose from:
Yellow Lake, Lyn Idwall, Vosges.....so far these were the ones named as guesses here.....
As i wrote a Vosges would be a fast cutter, if these properties are not given this one will not be further longer in the race....
i added a further picture of my Vosges Stone so it might be that this was a short shot guess as there is quite a different structure....
the Vosges looks more glassy like with the big inclusion on the side...
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7363/...0437f9_c_d.jpg
@Vasilis: Sorry asking but is Llyn Idwall a writing error or did you mean it so ? As far i did research and checked posts and pictures i only found green ones (i mean completely green)...did you mean Yellow Lake/Lynn Mellylynn ?
interesting it seems that there are properties that both stones tend to have on the first look....colour, pattern....Quote:
I have a very similar stone, you can see pics of it here Help id this natural hone!.
Every time these come up, the debate about it being a Lynn Mellylynn or Vosgiennes comes up. Still to this day i am unsure of its name.
But one tthing is for sure is that stone will never leave me, its a fine finisher, easy to use and its size for honing at 14 inches is quite unusual.
No, it wasn't writing error.
This specific type of flake like surface is characteristic on the novaculite stones, and the stones that appear to have it most frequently are the Turkish oilstones and the Llyn Idwal stones. It's obviously not a Turkish oilstone, in their case, they look different and bigger, and the stone is black or almost black.
In the first photo, you can see that, the left side of the stone has more of those small translucent like flakes, and it's deep coloured/greener. As we go to the left, they gradually disappear, and the stone gets purpler.
There are green-blue like veins in the purple, and near them those flakes appear, and the bigger the distance between those "veins", the smaller the number and size of those flakes.
That's why I think it's a stone was cut from the borders of a Llyn idwal novaculite piece, and contains its novaculite and the purple stone that surrounded it.
Yes, Llyn Idwal stones are not this purple, but I don't think it's a pure one.
Of course I could be wrong, but that's what I'm thinking.
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Originally Posted by doorsch
Thanks for your explanation Vasilis, thats why i asked...
In thinking of a LI my knowledge is quite bad, so your explanation sounds agreeable if this would be a LI...as been written i have only seen green ones....
The picture shown looks like a kind of schist
Not to be controversial, but this stone has no resemblance whatsoever to any Lynn Idwall i have ever seen!
Thanks to everybody for the feedback. I have never seen one like this and curiosity is there. It was really rough when i bought it at a flea market. I cleaned it up and was surprised at the finish it gives.
