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Size:  46.1 KBI am wanting to ID this hone. It is very smooth and leaves a nice finish on razor. I had an authentic Escher and it scratches like that, if that makes sense. It is maroon in color and makes a water slurry.

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    I'm guessing a Llyn Melynllyn (Yellow Lake) hone.

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    Must not be a Yellow Lake, but i agree with Utopian that there are some around looking alike.

    ...my guess tend in the direction of beeing a Vosges / Vosgienne....is it a very hard stone ? slurry is Violet slightly brown...

    Would like to hear other Opinions and guesses...anybody around from the french hone thread ?...Thaeris, Margeja, Hatzicho, Modine, Piet....

    Here was an interesting Thread with no Solution on the topic:
    http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...ake-stone.html


    Thats mine:
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    I have a very similar stone, you can see pics of it here http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...ural-hone.html.
    Every time these come up, the debate about it being a Lynn Mellylynn or Vosgiennes comes up. Still to this day i am unsure of its name.
    But one tthing is for sure is that stone will never leave me, its a fine finisher, easy to use and its size for honing at 14 inches is quite unusual.

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    The best Way to seperate a Vosges in comparison to a yellow lake is the "fast cutting" ability....if you do 10-20 strokes after the pre-finishing phase and you get a fine mirror finished edge i would more tend talking about a Vosges then on a Yellow Lake...

    The Vosges removes Material very fast, and could be compared in my thinking to a red La Lune...or in thinking on Barber Hones like a Frictionite...

    Also Lapping might be different the Vosges is a very hard and very dense Stone and not easy to lap...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin103 View Post
    I have a very similar stone, you can see pics of it here http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...ural-hone.html.
    Every time these come up, the debate about it being a Lynn Mellylynn or Vosgiennes comes up. Still to this day i am unsure of its name.
    But one tthing is for sure is that stone will never leave me, its a fine finisher, easy to use and its size for honing at 14 inches is quite unusual.
    Prom the pictures these two are not the same. However as in original link for yours Martin103 I WAS WRONG. There are purple YLs as well as the name is brand name not the name of the origin.
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    My money would be more on European origin of the hone. I believe Henk in his book has a picture of hone similar to this one.

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    @adrspach: any reference on the grindind and honing parts from Henk, which page did you mean ?

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    First of all, I see some light translucentish flaking. And there are a lot of inclusions, regardless if they damage the edge, probably cut from somewhere near the border of two different formations.
    My guess is, it's a mixture of Llyn Idwal stone with the rock that surrounded it. And, all this pattern with the dark spots, combined with the flaking, I can't think of anything else.
    Of course, since it's not a pure stone it could be softer and faster, but that's what I think.

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    OK quite funny now, we have to choose from:
    Yellow Lake, Lyn Idwall, Vosges.....so far these were the ones named as guesses here.....

    As i wrote a Vosges would be a fast cutter, if these properties are not given this one will not be further longer in the race....
    i added a further picture of my Vosges Stone so it might be that this was a short shot guess as there is quite a different structure....
    the Vosges looks more glassy like with the big inclusion on the side...


    @Vasilis: Sorry asking but is Llyn Idwall a writing error or did you mean it so ? As far i did research and checked posts and pictures i only found green ones (i mean completely green)...did you mean Yellow Lake/Lynn Mellylynn ?

    I have a very similar stone, you can see pics of it here Help id this natural hone!.
    Every time these come up, the debate about it being a Lynn Mellylynn or Vosgiennes comes up. Still to this day i am unsure of its name.
    But one tthing is for sure is that stone will never leave me, its a fine finisher, easy to use and its size for honing at 14 inches is quite unusual.
    interesting it seems that there are properties that both stones tend to have on the first look....colour, pattern....
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