T. Noonan & Co. "Modock Hone"

Snagged this on ebay yesterday, looks to be a natural stone but unsure, heres the info from the auction + pictures....cant find any info though anywhere. Figured it was worth the 42ish bucks I payed to take a chance though.

Box marked: MODOCK HONE; This Hone is without doubt the finest Hone ever offered to the public. Imported exclusively by T. NOONAN & COMPANY 38 PORTLAND ST., BOSTON; DIRECTIONS: Wet the Hone with water and then run well with the rubber before starting to hone each razor. DON'T USE SOAP OR OIL.

Measurements: 2 3/8" x 7" sharpening surface. Heavy brass base--1 pound 10 ounces

Anyone have any info?

Sadly the slurry stone is gone but no biggie! Cant wait to recieve it and see what I bought...

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So many hones out there that are all calling out.

On the first picture it seems to look like a natural, probably a thuringian, it says a brass base...

I think the package does not fit to the stone ...could be though the rubber is missing....but keep us updated on this one....

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Originally Posted by doorsch

On the first picture it seems to look like a natural, probably a thuringian, it says a brass base...

I think the package does not fit to the stone ...could be though the rubber is missing....but keep us updated on this one....

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Im pretty sure its because the slurry stone is missing, was my first thought as well till I read the info from the box and it mentioned the "rubber" pretty reputable razor company so I figured if they were in the business of importing thuringians then itd possibly be a nice high quality stone....plus the stone size seemed great.

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Originally Posted by RezDog

So many hones out there that are all calling out.

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I thought my RAD was bad, HAD has now set in....

Worst part of these disorders is waiting for the mailman!

Since T. Noonan & Co was a barbers supply co, importing German razors with their name it is highly probable that this Modock Hone could be a Thuringian. Thin hone,on a brass base.

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Originally Posted by Martin103

Since T. Noonan & Co was a barbers supply co, importing German razors with their name it is highly probable that this Modock Hone could be a Thuringian. Thin hone,on a brass base.

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Thats what I am banking on, figured for 42 bucks it was worth the gamble, and looked thuringian. Bout to buy a couple thuringians of different colors in the next week so should be set on finishers soonish. Need to get some intermediate stones though, might order a 4/8k norton combo today as well

When you see a vintage natural stone with a description that says "don't use oil" or something similar, it's probably a Thuringian. And the slurry stone was used on Thuringians and coticules mostly. I'm pretty sure your stone is a Thuringian.

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Originally Posted by Vasilis

When you see a vintage natural stone with a description that says "don't use oil" or something similar, it's probably a Thuringian. And the slurry stone was used on Thuringians and coticules mostly. I'm pretty sure your stone is a Thuringian.

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Im hoping it arrives tonight...........in one piece...

Ill get better pics later....Just opened it and Oh man this is a nice thuringian....tried to snap a couple pics...can't believe I snagged it for $42

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Dry
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It may need very little lapping if any...gonna grid it and lap in a few then give a razor a ride on her tomorrow.

Bit better pics
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Dry
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Stone is 7" long....2 1/4" wide.....3/4" thick also...
Sides
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And close-up dry
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Better pic wet with slurry
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Feedback? Never owned a thuringian before. From pics I've seen it sure seems like one

Looks to be a great find.

Lapped off some patina so you can see better as well. Still a bit left but hope it helps

Can see the natural color changes starting ending in bottom right corner of pics starting in middle of top the stone is a greenish color in person not sure the pics show it very well...by far the smoothest rock I've ever held though...bout to test it

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Dry

Thuri or not that improved on my best shaver I have at home with only water no slurry.

While lapping it wiggled in the base....so here's some pics of the back of the stone

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Hey Dennis, iam not shure though about the thuringian thing, shurely a nice stone but just from looking at the pics thats not my vote...any Sawmarks visible on the sides ? Can you make a detail shot of the corner where a part is broken out or its due to natural structure (Schist) ?

You should compare it to the one you will get....having then both stones together it might be better for you personal to come to a conclusion...having two turingians in your own hand you will be able to identify....

More pics in better lighting now that I'm at the barber shop....used some wet dry and took some patina off the middle of the side for a better shot
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Mhh definately a type of Schist i would say...interesting is the colour pattern on the surface....

Just from looking at the pictures the surface (both on the sides and on the lapped side) looks a bit more coarse then i would think a thuringian should look, but thats not a proper evaluated statement just a interpretation from me....

There was a post here on SRP about thuringian stones from Hatzicho were a picture of stones were shown suffering from "Mehlstein"...as there is this kind of brown green area in the last picture this just reminded me on the thread....

http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...ml#post1169346

Does the stone look like a double sided natural "combo" of dark and light coloured stone or it's just me? If the stone has this, it's another characteristic of a Thuringian. And, it's not glued, is it?

Yes looks like two colours in my opinion...but the line is not completely moving straight along, this doesn not have to mean anything, what about oil or any other solution, Dennis, any signs this one was used with oil?

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Originally Posted by Vasilis

Does the stone look like a double sided natural "combo" of dark and light coloured stone or it's just me? If the stone has this, it's another characteristic of a Thuringian. And, it's not glued, is it?

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Yes it was held in the base by something like plaster

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Originally Posted by doorsch

Yes looks like two colours in my opinion...but the line is not completely moving straight along, this doesn not have to mean anything, what about oil or any other solution, Dennis, any signs this one was used with oil?

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Nah its never seen oil, water absorbtion was too good and didn't bead up which happens on any oilstone I've seen.

Couple shots at 15x through a jewelers loupe.

Red dots only maybe 3 of them on the surface
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Hope these help
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Yes, you are right, this color difference could be because it was glued inside the box.

Red dots, green colour ? Never seen a thuringian with red dots

What are the smaller points in the surface ? Looks like when looking in detail on a coti....

Smaller points seem like a darker blue-green, rest is a greenish yellow looking stone

It improves over my 12k and its shaves wonderfully off the stone without stropping. Thuringian? Don't know the answer to that but its my finest finisher by far, and seems like a pretty fast stone that leaves a mirrored bevel

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Originally Posted by DennisBarberShop

It improves over my 12k and its shaves wonderfully off the stone without stropping. Thuringian? Don't know the answer to that but its my finest finisher by far, and seems like a pretty fast stone that leaves a mirrored bevel

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Honestly Dennis this is the most important thing to a shaver, now for collectors it's a different story. Nice snag of a great looking hone.

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Originally Posted by DennisBarberShop

It improves over my 12k and its shaves wonderfully off the stone without stropping. Thuringian? Don't know the answer to that but its my finest finisher by far, and seems like a pretty fast stone that leaves a mirrored bevel

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the 12K+ and beyond is what I'm chasing and I think I may have found it with the Apart BH. Shave will see. I didn't see a drastic physical change, but I didn't do too many laps on the lather. I think I did 10-12.

Now having this BH in hand and tested, I now really have to step back and tip my hat to the quality and value of the Nani 12K.

Dennis,
This looks like a really nice stone. :)

Here's a pic of a heavy slurry
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:beer1::beer1:Dennis, how do I get the razor gods on my side a little more. Are there any special sacrifices that you've been doing? Any magical words of script I could say? Cool catch man! You're likely to get 'tennis elbow' from all honing you gotta do. :beer1:

Hit up the Woodcraft shop and bought a diamond lapping plate and a king 6k today, along with some nice exotic woods, probably pick up a norton 4k/8k combo next week as well, then I should be set on stones, not that HAD will go away lol

Did some more lapping on this stone and its looking even better, had a lot of old swarf in it I believe.

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Originally Posted by DennisBarberShop

Hit up the Woodcraft shop and bought a diamond lapping plate and a king 6k today, along with some nice exotic woods, probably pick up a norton 4k/8k combo next week as well, then I should be set on stones, not that HAD will go away lol

Did some more lapping on this stone and its looking even better, had a lot of old swarf in it I believe.

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HAD will never leave you....i can tell....

Lol, none of my other ADs have left so id assume not

Update since lapping the stone....
It is an ultra fine finisher, very hard stone, and works very fast.

End pics wet in daylight
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Slurried beside yg thuri
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