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hello
I can not identify this stone the color greenish mud is not whitish it is just to bother me that she will rather green worm
thank you in advance
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( oops!)Looks like a Schwedenstein I have one similar and...it is a super fine finisher.
I got the info form a long thread on another forum. Usually they are thinner but yu may have the queen's jewel!
~Richard
I agree now with Charnley Forest photo and thank the poster for that info.
bonjour Geezer
merci pour cette identification mais je n'avais pas pensé a une suedoise
j'etais parti plutot sur une anglaise Charnley Forest ou une Llyn Idwal
je pense qu'il est rare de trouver une pierre suedoise en france surtout à l'endroit où j'habite la campagne profonde de la france
Although I don't think I have ever disagreed with Richard in any of his posts, I'm not sure if this is a Swedenstein. There is limited information about those stones, but that's about how they look like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELNxILkPihc
Darker, and usually with even darker patches and thick lines that run across the stone. And the stones were very thin indeed because the vein from the quarry was itself very thin.
Also, I'm not sure if the Swedensteins were indeed mined in Sweden, and, it definitely isn't a Charnley forest or Llyn Idwal stone.
After that, I don't know. Maybe a light colored Thuringian? It's not difficult to find them in France.
thank you
we will await further notice of a member
on the french forum where I'm told that this is a Charnley Forest
I can be still unidentifiable stone
Maybe you should retake some picture in a brighter light.
My guess was for a Charnley Forrest :shrug:
Here are more photos in full days
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Yeah, I would agree with a Charnley Forest Hone.
the runway the Charnley Forrest is confirmed
I want to emphasize that Thaeris had identified this as a Charnley Forest stone on the French forum
I had a doubt so bravoThaeris
thank you to the other members of the reactions
I wrote on Coupechouxclub if this is a hard stone i didnt meant a "heavy stone"
bad translater :-)
If so my Vote is CF...this is no Swedenstein iam 100% shure here is the Swedenstein...
@Vasillis: great you used that Video from my Channel i really appreciate it, thats for what these Videos are meant to use for !!
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Thank you all for increasing my knowledge. I was told the stones name originally by a respected personage. Now I know better.
Thank you again...all!
~Richard
I understood doorsch; ) It is not hard
I have also translated fail me in this forum
Thanks for the videos doorsch, very informative, I didn't know they were yours, awesome job. We need more of those.
Gentlemen, I have seen a lot of stones that look or perform much different than the rest of their family, but in that case, what makes everybody think this is a Charnley stone?
Btw I bought my first Charnley from France, my first coticule from Turkey, and I have found labeled Thuringians here in Greece. Not resold, old ones that arrived many years ago. It's not a matter of where you bought it.
But what makes you think this is one?
Just from the colouring and in my Point of View there are often these smal holes sometimes directly on the lines sometimes somewhere else in the stone i will make some detail shots of my stone...
What does not fit is Antoines reply concerning the hardness...if it is a CF it would be very hard and not easy to lap....
surfacing it behaves as a coti
I have had 4 Charnley stones, and I've been following the UK bay for stones and images for years now. For my stones, they weren't too hard. Maybe like a Belgian blue, but far softer than translucent Arkies.Quote:
Originally Posted by doorsch
All of them were 9"-23 cm long or longer, and always 1 3/4 ~4cm long. You have to try really hard to find a Charnley that's less than 8"-20cm. Unless the owner cuts it himself.
The sides and back side is always crude cut. No straight lines, and, it's a fact that it's extremely hard to cut a piece of novaculite.
Always soaked in oil, they smelled like old oil and couldn't keep water on their surface, even after a lot of lapping. This one looks somewhat porous-er than a charnley, and does not appear to have been used with oil at all. The color is much lighter, and that doesn't mean something, but the red line or spots are a somewhat common characteristic that does not appear here. You can also see in some of the Charnley stones flaking (a common thing for novaculite stones, especially Llyn Idwal and Turkish oilstones). The non toxic dots- pores in Charnley stones are almost always filled with a very fine red powder, Iron oxide, where, in this case, they look different.
And the overall image, the stone looks slate-y, nothing like a novaculite stone.
And, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the stone is a finisher.
Probably youre right Vasilis...i have another one to throw in iam also searching for Identification...
Also comparable to a Coti...greenish with lines (in this case yellow/green).
Interesting is that the pattern is quite comparable to Antoines stone with a light to darker green, some faint smal striations and little very smal dots...slurry is greenish if pictures are wished i can post some....
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I assume CFs don't seem quite as hard when you're using a DMT for lapping or another fast method. In comparison to the harder arkies and LIs they're almost a delight to lap but when you're only using regular sanding paper you will respect the stone :) Also being natural stones some will be softer than others.
Having big red spots makes it easy to identify a CF. But without them you can often still recognize them by their natural shape, the colour, having shades of a green and sometimes veining.
I also noticed part of the texture has a resemblence to that of a Schwedenstein so Geezer's guess wasn't odd :)
Here's a tiny stone from Undream which I believe shows the Schwedenstein texture:
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on m'avait vendu celle ci comme une CF mais après je pensais plus tôt a une Llyn Idwal
la taille elle fait 25.5 cm de longu et 4.5 cm de large
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I would also think that's a LI. Fairly uniform in colour and a very subtle wave pattern with tiny speckles.
How hard did you find this one?
Crazy green Monsters ;-)
Quite difficult to difference between all these different thinkings on these stones....
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Originally Posted by Piet
I have not yet tested
if there was question
for the time is time that I can devote to sharpening method I stay on my coticule combo and stone moon
Well at least there is some consistency in answers?
Here is mine harder than a Tam o Shanter or Thuringian: It is a thin bout max of 1.5 Cm thick at the deepest. Held in by plaster.
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And, Finer than frog's hair!
Been my sink side finisher for a couple years.
~Richard
I would like to share with you a find of the day and at the same time still identify this stone again asking me problem
the only clue she was bring to germany
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I would not be surprised if the stone was Thuri. For me it does not look like CF or LI.
goodnight AdrspachQuote:
Originally Posted by adrspach
you talk about what the first greenish stone
or the last brown
I would not be surprised if the second is Coti but also could be thuri. The best people on this matter would be Bart, Hatzicho and Henk.
I do not think that the second is a coticule it looks strangely has this one which also was never actually identifyQuote:
Originally Posted by adrspach
bart had replied that he would not be thought a coticule
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If Bart said so I respect it. It was just my feeling that it could be one as well as thuri.
bart was not on a 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by adrspach
thuri might be a good option given its origin
to which interest in our discussion this is the sentiment of everyone :)
