Pike Beljen hone

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10-04-2014, 02:20 PM
dta116

Pike Beljen hone

Is there anything special about the Pike's Beljen hone or any other coticule the same size or is it just a branded coticule?

I guess the box could be special.

Thanks, Dave
10-04-2014, 02:45 PM
JimmyHAD

I've had a couple of Pike coticules and they were good. As has been pointed out in the past, coticules are metamorphic rocks formed a million years ago give or take a few. When they were dug out of the ground should be inconsequential. OTOH, there were more mines back then, more veins to cull through. So it may have been that 'select' was better in the old days than it is today.

Thinking about it though, you wonder if the best coticule vein is yet to be tapped ? A possibility. I've been through quite a few vintage cotis, and a few mined within the last few years. I really liked some of both vintages and didn't like others. IME all you can do is give it a try and see which of the chocolates you got out of the box. :gl:
10-04-2014, 03:24 PM
dta116

So are you saying it is probably a select that has been cut to fit the box?
10-04-2014, 03:51 PM
hatzicho

If you mean the one that is for sale at the bay at the moment - this is not a coticule, maybe even not a natural hone. If you read the label it says: "A fast cutting hone which gives an edge equal to the natural belgian."
I think that's also the reason why its named beljen and not belgian hone.
10-04-2014, 03:55 PM
JimmyHAD

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Originally Posted by hatzicho

If you mean the one that is for sale at the bay at the moment - this is not a coticule, maybe even not a natural hone. If you read the label it says: "A fast cutting hone which gives an edge equal to the natural belgian."
I think that's also the reason why its named beljen and not belgian hone.

Thanks Peter, I didn't know this was for a current auction, and thought the OP just misspelled Belgian ....... :gaah: That's what I get for thinking :p My comments were on Belgian Coticules generally, not any one particularly.
10-04-2014, 03:59 PM
Wolfpack34

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Originally Posted by hatzicho

If you mean the one that is for sale at the bay at the moment - this is not a coticule, maybe even not a natural hone. If you read the label it says: "A fast cutting hone which gives an edge equal to the natural belgian."
I think that's also the reason why its named beljen and not belgian hone.

+1... It IS NOT a Coticule....it is a manufactured 2-sided Barber hone.
10-04-2014, 04:19 PM
dta116

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack34

+1... It IS NOT a Coticule....it is a manufactured 2-sided Barber hone.

Thanks guys'; thats why I asked, it looks just like one.
10-04-2014, 07:35 PM
RezDog

There were a series of hones made from the bits of coticule or cuticle grinding and bound together to made an artificial coticule. Looking at the really bad pictures it is possible but at this point I have to emphasize possible, Pike did have some but I don't know which ones.
10-04-2014, 09:14 PM
dta116

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Originally Posted by RezDog

There were a series of hones made from the bits of coticule or cuticle grinding and bound together to made an artificial coticule. Looking at the really bad pictures it is possible but at this point I have to emphasize possible, Pike did have some but I don't know which ones.

Thanks Shaun, rather have one of your stones than a fake.........
10-04-2014, 10:03 PM
Grazor

I have one. Definitely a synthetic. I picked it up hoping the same thing, that it was a coticule.
11-30-2014, 03:32 PM
dta116

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Originally Posted by Grazor

I have one. Definitely a synthetic. I picked it up hoping the same thing, that it was a coticule.

But is it a "good" barbers hone?
11-30-2014, 09:04 PM
Grazor

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Originally Posted by dta116

But is it a "good" barbers hone?

Still learning to hone, but although a synthetic, the Beljin feels very hard, and more like a natural stone. Given time to learn it, I think it would be a good hone, it is also larger than the average barber hone.
11-30-2014, 09:57 PM
dta116

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Originally Posted by Grazor

Still learning to hone, but although a synthetic, the Beljin feels very hard, and more like a natural stone. Given time to learn it, I think it would be a good hone, it is also larger than the average barber hone.

Thanks Grazor, Good to know you are working with it.

Dave
11-30-2014, 10:55 PM
Grazor

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Originally Posted by dta116

Thanks Grazor, Good to know you are working with it.

Dave

Dave, If you have one, I would be interested to know what you think of it. Like I said, I am a novice honer, and have only my own edges to compare.
12-01-2014, 02:57 AM
dta116

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Originally Posted by Grazor

Dave, If you have one, I would be interested to know what you think of it. Like I said, I am a novice honer, and have only my own edges to compare.

Are you using it as a honing stone? If so I believe it should only be used as a barbers hone. Use it only to keep the razors edge in shape from use, not to be used to sharpen. It may not work very well for that. But I don't have one so I can't say for sure.

Barbers hones typically are used to give the razor a few swipes with lather, wet, or dry to maintain the edge when the razor begins to pull.

Dave - PM me if you have any questions.