Just curious if there is any update on your $0.02. I'm considering this for a cheaper alternative to a Naniwa 12k.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slurryer
Just curious if there is any update on your $0.02. I'm considering this for a cheaper alternative to a Naniwa 12k.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slurryer
I've been using this stone for about a month or so, and I am extremely pleased with it! Honing with a milky slurry seems to be about equal with an 8K stone. I've been able to take a razor from a 1K straight to the ILR with slurry to clear water, and get a very very good shaving edge. However I'm not able to do that consistently from razor to razor. I chock that up to my honing inexperience, and not the hone itself. It is definitely capable of honing an edge off a 1K stone all the way to shave ready. For now I will usually do the 1K 4K 8K and then the ILR.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmessma
I have lapped it with the Norton stone with no real harm done in the end. Probably not the best thing to use, but a light lapping with the Norton will not hurt this. Again, more for the folks wagging their fingers in my general direction, using a Norton lapping stone on the ILR is not ideal, but will get the job done as long as you're not overly aggressive. 320 grit or a bit higher wet dry sand paper on a good flat smooth surface would probably work better, and will not set you back more that a few dollars. If you can get the wet dry sand paper, go that route, if lapping is needed at all.
Congratulations on the ILR purchase. It's a very good hone, even in the hands of someone with only a few months of experience. A very good purchase!
Hi Blade Whisperer. Glad to see this thread is still going. You will get the consistency. Spend a little extra time on the visual at the end of the 1k. Don't let yourself think that 50 of this on this blade will be the same for that blade. Different shapes, different hardness, and different width of bevel. If your getting from 1K to 8K, you're ahead of most.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slurryer
Cheers,
That's a signature with a story indeed!Quote:
Originally Posted by bigeasy1
50 passes on this blade doesn't equate the same on that blade... Good food for thought, and might explain some of of what I'm observing.Still haven't gotten much testing experience, mostly because of the time it seems to take get a feel for things. But I'm running out of hairs on my left hand. So I'm either going to invest in some Acme Hair Tonic, or get a better method of testing.
Thanks for the advice Brother
Viva La Razor!
Been a while. Any follow up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Slurryer
Best regards,
Perhaps, being the vendor, you should finally provide the details on the provenance of the hones that people have been asking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigeasy1
Seriously, ..... Glad I read this thread now as was kinda considering trying this stone.. (duno why really as I have plenty proven finishers at my disposal) but I too would really like to know the true origin of this stone,, or I would feel a bit 'mugged' regardless of the price..
Is this another case of 'made in China' being passed off as made in 'Italy' this time?
Shame if it is, coz I would have actually purchased the stone regardless of it coming from China, as the price is very reasonable for a finisher compared to the proven stones of pedigree,,, but to be deceived over the origin of said item of interest does put me off purchasing big time!
I tested one of these for several weeks, and it was able to provide a very keen edge but it wasn't the most comfortable according to my face at least. For me, not on the same level as a good Thuri or JNat. It gives a plenty keen enough edge for a WTG shave, but the comfort wasn't there on ATG passes. The best edges I got were finishing on light slurry a la JNat and alternatively with the stone super smoothed like an Ark. I have about 30 natural finishing stones and a few of the better synthetic finishers to compare with.
Oh, I seem to recognize a lot of names for the likes above, and the added comment below.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToolFiendG
It has never been our intention to deceive anyone. There was a mention very early of Imperia Italy. This is not the case. China is also not the case. Excuse me, but perhaps all of you would like to give me your sources for all of the items you sell?
If any of you believe it to be deceitful to withhold the origin of the stone, so be it. We consider that information to be trade secret. We do consider it deceitful to purchase a stone on ebay, without questions, and then cancel the order after using your purchase as leverage to get an answer to this question. The offender is here, but I expect others had a grand laugh over it as well.
Mr. Kretz test is on another major forum. For anyone who wishes to look, the very first pic, on the very first post, is of a blade so covered with pitting that the dark round spots extending into the bevel are very obvious. I would have no doubt that he would not be able to get a shaveable edge from any stone. especially if he does not know what is considered the proper way to use a slurrying slate stone.
Have a grand evening,
So this time a well appreciated Thanks for this statement....probably a step to get some plus point...Quote:
Originally Posted by bigeasy1
Riiiight. Because it's not possible to hone past any bad steel. Have a good look at that picture again, there's no pitting anywhere near the edge. This was not the only razor I tested with either, FYI. I won't bother to address the rest of your silly and insulting comment. I'm not the one being deceptive... And I have no motive to call it any other way than what it is. I am not the only person who arrived at the same conclusion either - plenty of well known and respected members have found the same as I did. You will be lucky if this thread doesn't get locked also if you keep up the rude and disrespectful comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigeasy1
I agree with eKretz. I was hanging back reading. I was shocked and surprised with the vendor's comments. This will not help the support of the hone in the straight razor community
Bigeasy1 you have been and continue to be deceptive about the very reasonable source questions that have been put to you.
"We consider that information to be a trade secret" simply put is more deception and absolute rubbish as one of my favorite members would say.
Bigeasy1,
What is dishonest, misleading, and deceitful is:
- Not disclosing for months your vested interest in the sale of these hones and acting as if you're just an unrelated bystander.
- Naming a stone with a specific locale it has nothing to do with.
- Not clearing the provenance confusion you created - e.g. you could've stated that "the name has nothing to do with the respective region in Italy" but instead have very intentionally chosen to ignore the requests for clarification.
- Keeping your sourcing 'trade secret' is no excuse for being misleading. Being a part of this community of sharing and learning comes with a responsibility to it, not just to lining your pockets.
Furthermore, you have been violating the site terms:
- Your repeated postings on the forums attempting to bring attention to products you sell constitute unauthorized marketing.
- Your bringing your customer disputes here. You need to manage your business at your business venues.
Due to your conduct over an extended period of time and your refusal to even recognize the problems with it you are no longer welcome on our site.
I really hate shilling. I know that we cannot expect full honesty on the internet or even in this forum, but I appreciate the efforts made to try to keep this place worthy of trust.
Huh??
I know I am New to these forums in general, let alone on SRP.. But it seems like common sense to me that what you have been trying here must contravene some of the 'rules of conduct here'..
Duno exactly what you mean by the purchase/ cancel thing,, I have no knowledge of such thing...
My only point was that I like many I guess attach a certain romanticism to the region which a stone was mined,,, eg.. The coticules of Ardennes,, the Escher of Thuringa,, the Charnley of said forest etc etc etc no need to go on,,, and to be 'mislead' should I say,, or deliberately kept in the dark about said stones origin, in my eyes is not a good selling point, a bit of a deal breaker, that's all I meant..
Perhaps if it's a 'trade secret' then "fine natural stone of unknown origin" would be a fair name for example..
AnywayI was only calling it how I saw it.. I am sorry if I caused any upset or was seen to fan the flames,, not my intentions
Personally, I don't think you did anything wrong. Opinions ARE welcome here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToolFiendG
Thanks mate, I've been reading up on a lot of the old treads here lately, and it's nice to hear that from an experienced member like yourself
As per post 54 above, Bigeasy1 is no longer part of this community, and I'm closing the thread.