So here it is, I have read the forums and watched videos for weeks. My razor is a month old and still shaves great so i don't need any hones yet but the time will come. Do you buy the norton 4k/8k in the kit or would you be better off buying the naniwa 5 stone kit. If it's like riding motorcycles and someone ask what helmet to buy i always ask them what is your melon worth? So the answer is buy what you can afford. I assume the same applies to hones as well. The other factor is do you buy a thousand dollar rifle and put a cheap ten dollar scope on it. So maybe i have answered my own question but any responses would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.