I use the Naniwa 1k traditional. It was recommended by Lynn Abrams. Does a first rate job. I then go to my Naniwa 5k, 8k, 12k and then 7-10 laps on my Escher and lastly to my Mastro Livi Chromium oxide and skin on the loom strop. I find my best results come honing under running water. I have used JNats but find I get very good results with the Naniwa's and it is faster then the JNat progression.