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07-24-2021, 06:31 PM #1
Box of goodies
Today my son in law brought me a box he was given when he cleared an apartment in Antwerp , Belgium. It contained two Solingen razors ( Fischer 107 / Gebruder Becker in a Tuckmar case) - an alum block with holder - a sharpening device for double edge razor blades - a wrapped up honing stone .
The stone (200 x 45 x 20 mm) still carries the original (German) sticker .
I presume it might be a greenish Thuringian ? Not sure though ...
What do you guys think ?
Thanks
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07-24-2021, 07:29 PM #2
Awesome find. Hard to see the label but it looks like a Thuri to me. I love a Thuringian. Although it may not be my absolute favorite edge it is probably close to if not my absolute favorite to hone on. The feedback with the slurry is so satisfying.
Iron by iron is sharpened, And a man sharpens the face of his friend. PR 27:17
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07-24-2021, 07:30 PM #3
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Thanked: 4830What a great score. I agree with you about the hone. Hopefully Peter will be along soon enough. He knows those hones better than anyone.
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07-24-2021, 07:45 PM #4
Thank you all , yes I hope Hatzicho will shed some light on this. Pity I don't have the rubbing stone (on the sticker it states there is a rubbing stone included) . Strange thing is that no manufacturer is mentioned on the sticker. Only VDH (Verband Deutscher Hochschleiferei)
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07-25-2021, 12:12 AM #5
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Thanked: 8626It seems Belgian. I looked up Verband Deutscher. Some interesting stuff having nothing to do with hones.
It surely looks like something I want~!
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07-25-2021, 11:39 AM #6
No it is German. Dutch ( and Flemish which is spoken in the upper part of Belgium -where I live -) and German are both Germanic languages so there may be some confusion. The translation of 'Verband Deutscher Hohlschleiferei' should be something like 'Union of German Hollowgrinders'.
I cleaned the Fischer 11/16" razor . Removed the hardened oil using brake cleaner which worked very well . Took it trough a progression of 3M Trizact pads. (1000/3000/6000/8000) They did a wonderful job .Always amazed how good they work.
No sign of use , so maybe factory edge.
Will take the razor to the stones and finish on the VDH.
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07-25-2021, 12:10 PM #7
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07-29-2021, 01:28 PM #8
Hi Bart,
very intersting find. Nice razors and the stone is a thuringian for sure. The interesting thing is indeed, that the distributor mentioned on the label is not a manufacutrer, nor a salescompany and no whetstone maker.
The Verband Deutscher Hohlschleifereibesitzer was an association of hollow grinders, mainly those who were located in Eastern Germany, so not Solingen Grinders.
Following is an extract of the grinders journal "Knife and Scissor" from 1930, with the management members of that time.
The registered office of that association was Berlin. Don't know exactly when they have been founded, they may have been emerged of the "Verein der deutschen Hohlschleifereibesitzer Berlin", which already existed before 1910. So I think your stone would have been sold somewhere 1930 +/- 10 years.
I didn't know that this associaton sold any sharpening stones or toools though. It surely will be of good quality if they recommended and sold that stone.
Regards Peter
Edit: Just looked again on the label and saw the expression: Verbandszeichen ges. geschützt
So that would mean afaik that the label was printed probably after 1936. In 1936 there was a new law in Germany so-called "Warenzeichengesetz" which allowed to protect brands, trademarks etc. by law and to add the characters "ges. geschützt" - protected by law - on the labels.Last edited by hatzicho; 07-29-2021 at 01:48 PM.
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07-29-2021, 05:40 PM #9
Thank you Peter , your knowledge about honing stones is incredible and your comments are always super high valued... Thanks again !!!
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