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    Question Is this a Charnley Forest?

    It has the colour of one, it is as hard, but it has a mixed sort of structure I haven't seen before, with inclusions more like certain Arkansas stones - your expertise gentlemen, if you please!

    Overall size: 126 x 55mm

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    I've seen Charnleys that loo0ked white in photos but in actuality they are a light olive green. Some have magenta streaking in them. If ther stone is an olive green it might be a Charnley.
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    It certainly looks like one, but it also looks a lot like some vintage coticules, especially with those black spots that manganese produces in coticules. Some Charnley Forest hones are said to have hard deposits in them that make them unsuitable for honing, which is why the Whittle Hill quarry produced the best stone in the region - inclusion free.

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    I'm certain it isn't a coticule. It's too hard, there are no layers visible on the flanks as there are on hard green coticules, and I can find no trace of spessartine.

    It does have the particular Charnley Forest mossy green complexion. There are patches with diffuse purplish hints, and there is a purple vein too (difficult to see in the pictures, but the leftmost queer one).

    I read about non-Whittle Hill stones having (hard) inclusions and being stingy, but I don't know what form the inclusions take. It's the first time I see inclusions of this kind in a CF-like stone: as if crevices have been filled with fine hour-glass sand of matching colours and an occasional small black pebble.

    In want of alternatives, my best guess would still be it's a CF, but hone afficionado hi_bud_gl had some interesting contrariant observations. CF, he reasons, is a very hard and very slow-cutting hone. Therefore most of them were cut oblong in lenghts above 8", usually even 10"-13", otherwise honing would have been far too weary. A CF of only 5", like this one, wouldn't make sense. Therefore it most likely is something else.

    - but what?

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    Give it a go with a razor or two and if it doesn't work for them perhaps a knife blade. Whatever it may be if it is effective that is the important thing. The ideal situation is that you would find that it is the greatest razor hone yet known to man. Then you would be the only one in the world with one, no one would know what it is, and hi_bud and I would be pulling our hair out.
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    Actually, I think it is! Now you and hi_bus_gl can start competing for my favour. Let me think what I'd like...


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