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Looking for a finisher to take over from my usual lapping flim habit (OK, I'll never actually give them up, just looking for a new hone, you know....:D)
Anybody have experience with both the Spydy UF and Naniwa SS 12K? Thoughts, comments, suggestions?
I have experience with the naniwa and liked it.
No experience with the spyderco, but word on the street is they are a pain to lap.
I've got both and I would go for the Naniwa every time. The Spydercos are just too slow and offer no feedback whatsoever IME.
On the Naniwa Super 12K, I usually get what I need in 10-15 strokes with good consistency. With the Sypderco UF, you can get there, but it could be 30 or 50 or 100 strokes so consistency is really not there for me.
Have fun,
Lynn
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Originally Posted by Lynn
I don't have the Naniwa, but while the SUF will put a great finish on the razor, it's sort of like the C12k - you just hone until your arm gets tired and call it good. But the price is right.
Thanks guys.
I tried a Spydy "fine", and I didn't care much for the way it felt.
Hmm...I guess I best head over to SRD, and see what's happenin':hmmm:
I don't have any Naniwas or the UF, but I do have a Spyderco Medium and Fine.
I agree that the Spydercos have basically no "feel" to them at all, so I don't use mine anymore.
You can coax a little bit of feedback out of them if you use soapy water, as has been suggested for DMTs. Still not much fun to use though, but a bit more bearable.
I have both. Get the 12k nani. Spyderco UF is a polisher only.
Enjoy!
Ray
I've both and I don't agree at all that you don't have feed-back with the Spyderco UF. But it's a feed-back based on sound.
After 10 -15 very light laps on the stone, the sound it makes changes suddenly and resembles the sound of a drawing sword "like in the movies".
Hearing this sound is the moment to stop the honing.
The spyderco is an excellent finisher. I use both, and the Spyderco Uf comes right after the Naniwa 12K. Pasting with chromoxid isn't necessary afterwards.
Curious, is your UF stock or lapped?
I find the Spyderco UF a slow cutter & the inconsistency that Lynn describes re # of strokes shows that it it is only useful within a narrow range of steels.
Don't own a Naniwa but I'd choose that by default.
I have the medium, fine and UF. They aren't any fun at all. Like everybody else has said, no feedback.
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Originally Posted by joke1176
Seems like the heyday of the UF has run its' course....Naniwa is taking charge!:tameshigiri:
I have a question concearning the UF and SS 12k as well:
I own the naniwa set up to 10k, wich gives me the highest and most consist polish ever (under light magnification)
even better than C12k and GS16k stones
I have heard there are some Spyderco UF users that have negative experiences with the finish it gives.
I know itīs not a big deal, but I donīt want a finisher that puts scratches to the finish.
So Iīve heard some UF users get scratches FROM the UF.
The edge is still good anyway.
But the question is; did anybody encounter these problems,
and how does the SS 12k compare? Will the 12k put a better polish to the edge than the Naniwa SS 8k or 10k (my most beloved polishing stones)
Because I heard people complain about (although consistent) scratch patterns from the ss 12k, too
( yes, I hear a lot of stories...)
Curious, is your UF stock or lapped?
It's stock. I never lapped it.
My UF is heavily lapped. It gives a great edge, but isn't any fun to use (or lap...). I'll go w the Naniwa.
I have a 12k Naniwa and the best word I can use to describe it is "feedback". It gets the edge to a point where it feels like the blade is being sucked onto the stone.
Jerry
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