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12-28-2009, 04:28 PM #1
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Thanked: 74Help with Chinese 12k
I recently got a Chinese 12k from Sparq. I lapped it up to a 1000 grit paper to make sure that it was flat and smooth.
When I finish with my Naniwa 8k, the bevel is very shiny and smooth. Mirror like. When I begin to use the C12K, the bevel looks scratched up and courser than it did with the Naniwa. I am using only water and light pressure.
Am I doing this right? Should I be using slurry? I am just looking to further polish the edge.
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12-28-2009, 04:31 PM #2
Any chance that random grit from the sandpaper contaminated the stone ? Just a thought.
Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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12-28-2009, 04:34 PM #3
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Thanked: 74I hope not, I lap under running water and then give the stone a good rubbing by hand under running water as well to make sure that it is nice and smooth and free of debris.
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12-28-2009, 04:50 PM #4
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Thanked: 6Did you round the edges of the stone? If not that could be the reason. I think the C12K is to hard to get particles of the sandpaper embedded into it.
Good luck with your stone.
Skizzo
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12-28-2009, 05:02 PM #5
Forget what the bevel looks like, how does the edge cut?
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12-28-2009, 05:54 PM #6
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Thanked: 74I just tried the stone again. I soaked it a little longer this time and the bevel seems to be much smoother. I'll giv'r a workout tomorrow and see how it went.
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12-29-2009, 03:59 AM #7
I only use the 12k as an occasional touch-up with no slurry.
I don't know what sort of scratches it's making, but the resulting edge is sharp n' smooth
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12-29-2009, 07:11 AM #8
Try a little bit of shave soap just the smallest touch will make it feel very different
and it washes off. No need to paint it with lather just rub a puck with a damp
finger then the stone.
My Chinese stone needed a lot of cleanup. It was not flat, even or level and after flattening needed a modest work out with a large kitchen knife to get rid of the roughness left after I got most of it flat.
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12-29-2009, 11:05 AM #9
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Thanked: 3164Like others have said, forget what the bevel looks like, it's how it shaves that counts! Also, there is no point in soaking them. I have had a fair number of them pass through my hands, and have found that they can be quite variable - some are finer than others, and some have crystal-like inclusions that can leave scratches no matter how careful you are.
Because the surface is so hard and adamantine anything on it can be felt - even dust that settles out of the air, or grit from lower rated hones, so you must keep it very clean. I use a thin slurry, then dilute it progressively with water til it is just water - you don't have to do as many laps this way as the slurry speeds things up a bit. You will still need a fair number of laps, though.
The soap/lather is good advice - makes the blade adhere well to the stone (I suppose it increases the suction).
Do make sure the edges are rounded - the stone is very unforgiving because it is so hard, and rough or raised edges can undo all your hard work.
Regards,
Neil.