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I've got 2K, 5K, 8K and 12K Naniwa SuperStones... Im happy and I've been doing pretty well with them.
But, I'm getting the itch for some kind of natural stone for a final finisher.
I don't want an all around natural with different slurries for a multi purpose stone... Maybe someday, but now I'm just looking for a cost effective finisher to improve an edge after the Naniwa 12K... If there is such an animal.
Suggestions???
Tough question.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlacknTan
Are there any better finisher then 12k answer is yes.
question is do you need it?
Depends.
do you have HAD? THEN GO HEAD.
HOW Much are you willing to spend?
You can get great edge by using pastes after 12k . question comes up Are you looking for edge or natural finisher?
This is naturals will give to you better edge. But they are pricey
Escher, japanese stones,
There is more rare ones out there but i don't think you need them.hope this helps
Suggestion... Well the 12K is a tough act to follow.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlacknTan
I have recently been astounded by a home made Tandy
leather strop that has a dusting of Cerium Oxide (0.25micron)
on it. The Tandy leather is stiff as cardboard i.e. not
very flexible, the lack of flex seems to be a bonus in this case.
The leather could also be glued to a chunk of flooring or what
ever......
I have a serious envy for a BIG loom strop like someone here has... LSAD
Newspaper, 80-120 laps?
I follow my 12k with an escher stone,it improves the 12k by a lot. That being said the naniwa ss 12k is a great finisher is that's what you have. Try to see how you like your 12k before spending more and more money.
Just make sure the seller accepts returns or if what you buy isn't as fine as your Naniwa you've bought a paperweight :)
+1, I really like the edges off of the naniwa 12k.Quote:
Originally Posted by niftyshaving
Better than 12K? and a natural? It sounds like your looking for something, either texture or sharpness or both. Maybe you want to decide that first?
How do feel about short and narrow? 1 inch x 5
I've found the escher to be realy nice, a good coticule, check ebay out for a little thuringian they come in wooden box with pink label in them. Im have 10k naniwa i think the differance will be in feel on your face
I usually finish on my Maruichi, but I'm not sure thats such a cost effective stone...! The Charnley Forest stones also put a great edge on a razor.
I do agree with Randy, Jimmy and others though, the 12k edge is really good and is definately shaving sharp. I recently got a set of Naniwas and I love the 12k edge. The Maruichi doesnt make the edge sharper, but it does add smoothness and makes the edge feel a lot softer. Its literally just the final finish on an already great edge.
Also, sharpness is not done with high grit stones. A finisher is just that, the final finish on a sharp edge. So if your razor isnt sharp at the 12k level, adding a higher grit stone wont make it any sharper, it'll just polish a dull edge. The sharpening is done on the 1k and 4k stones, the 8k and higher are just refining that sharp edge.
Good luck and keep us posted!
Oh but they are so beautiful :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stubear
+1 Very well put.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stubear
Indeed, and if you want one and can afford one, there's no reason not to get it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DwarvenChef
If practicality was all that mattered when I consider a purchase or acquisition, I'd have a whole LOT more room in my house, LOL!
Thanks to all fo all the good info..
Was just reading the thread on Japanese Naturals. Yikes! Looks like I'll be staying with the Naniwa 12K until I have alot more experience and know exactly what I need... and want!
Thanks again!
Here is another thought to add to your equation although I really enjoy my Escher's, Japanese Naturals, Coticules and Charnley Forest stones. I normally finish using 10 strokes on the Naniwa Super 12K before going to .5 diamond spray on felt. You may want to experiment by adding a stroke or two to the amount of strokes you are currently using with the 12K and see what difference that makes to both the final sharpness and smoothness. You can then add another stroke or two if you have success doing this to see where the limit is for you.
Have fun,
Lynn
Adding to what Lynn said...
or TAKE AWAY a stroke or two! Sometimes, especially early on in our learning curves, we tend to go overboard. I dont know if "overhone" happens on the finishers like it can on the lower grits, but I have a feeling it does!