Ultra fine Thuringian stone selling site

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06-05-2010, 06:02 PM
SharpMan

Ultra fine Thuringian stone selling site

I contacted mr Mueller who sells Thuringian stones. He said he would
not sell directly, but did give me a site which sells his stones:

Wetzsteine Schleifsteine Onlineshop - Wasserabziehsteine,Naturschleifstein,Wasserstein,W asserschleifstein,Rasiermesserschleifstein

The stones are sold in these sizes:

-150/50/20mm - 19.50Euro
-200/50/20mm - 24.50 Euro
-250/75/20mm - 35.90 Euro

Prices seem reasonable for those sizes. You also get a slurry stone.
The wooden box is optional for 5 euro I think.

The stones are supposedly 2500 FEPA grit or 8000 JIS grit. I am not
sure what grit that exactly is, but I am guessing 10000+.

The stones are called ´´Ultra feiner blauer Nauter-Wasserabziehstein´'
meaning ultra fine blue natural waterstone.

Anybody have experience with these stones?

Sharpman
06-05-2010, 07:25 PM
mainaman

my experience with the new Thuringians is they are not so fine, one of the two I have is pretty decent, but the other one is not.
I got them from other stores, and they are not uniform in color.
I can't tell if the color of what you posted is uniform or not, if you decide to try it let us know if it's good.
06-05-2010, 10:24 PM
John Crowley

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharpMan

I contacted mr Mueller who sells Thuringian stones. He said he would
not sell directly, but did give me a site which sells his stones:

Wetzsteine Schleifsteine Onlineshop - Wasserabziehsteine,Naturschleifstein,Wasserstein,W asserschleifstein,Rasiermesserschleifstein

The stones are sold in these sizes:

-150/50/20mm - 19.50Euro
-200/50/20mm - 24.50 Euro
-250/75/20mm - 35.90 Euro

Prices seem reasonable for those sizes. You also get a slurry stone.
The wooden box is optional for 5 euro I think.

The stones are supposedly 2500 FEPA grit or 8000 JIS grit. I am not
sure what grit that exactly is, but I am guessing 10000+.

The stones are called ´´Ultra feiner blauer Nauter-Wasserabziehstein´'
meaning ultra fine blue natural waterstone.

Anybody have experience with these stones?

Sharpman

JIS 8000 means he is telling us it is about 8000 grit.
06-05-2010, 10:31 PM
thebigspendur

Just looking at the pictures and thinking of the one I have for about 6 years now it looks very different.
06-05-2010, 11:12 PM
SharpMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Crowley

JIS 8000 means he is telling us it is about 8000 grit.

Oh ok, lol. I wouldn´t call 8000 grit ultra fine.

I thought 2500 FEPA would be something like 10000 grit.

Sharpman
06-05-2010, 11:39 PM
Oldengaerde

On that site these stones are correctly referred to as "Thüringer Art" or 'Thuringian style' - they aren't Thuringians at all. In all likelyhood these are Hunsrückers, from an area 350 kilometers to the west from where Eschers were mined. A grit rating of 8000 sounds about right.
06-06-2010, 12:19 AM
Disburden

This makes a lot of sense, the stones don't even look like the vintage ones. The slurry isn't as creamy either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldengaerde

On that site these stones are correctly referred to as "Thüringer Art" or 'Thuringian style' - they aren't Thuringians at all. In all likelyhood these are Hunsrückers, from an area 350 kilometers to the west from where Eschers were mined. A grit rating of 8000 sounds about right.
06-06-2010, 07:43 AM
Stoneage

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SharpMan

I contacted mr Mueller who sells Thuringian stones. He said he would
not sell directly, but did give me a site which sells his stones:

Wetzsteine Schleifsteine Onlineshop - Wasserabziehsteine,Naturschleifstein,Wasserstein,W asserschleifstein,Rasiermesserschleifstein

The stones are sold in these sizes:

-150/50/20mm - 19.50Euro
-200/50/20mm - 24.50 Euro
-250/75/20mm - 35.90 Euro

Prices seem reasonable for those sizes. You also get a slurry stone.
The wooden box is optional for 5 euro I think.

The stones are supposedly 2500 FEPA grit or 8000 JIS grit. I am not
sure what grit that exactly is, but I am guessing 10000+.

The stones are called ´´Ultra feiner blauer Nauter-Wasserabziehstein´'
meaning ultra fine blue natural waterstone.

Anybody have experience with these stones?

Sharpman

I have that stone...and many others :)

It's the biggest one in the enclosed picture. I often use it after the Nani 10 000 and I really like the "crispy" edge that this hone leaves on my razors. I have a dark thick and coarse beard... so I think it's a cheap and good finisher...BUT many of them have a lot of pyrite inclusions, so be sure that you get a nice "clean" one.

if you like to buy one of these I can recomend you to contact Herr Baumgärtner, at www.baumi-shop.de you can send an e-mail directly to him at: holzkaestchen@yahoo.de he speaks only german, but you can use google to translate...but keep your sentences very short....otherwise you'll get a very funny german language:rofl2:

Kind regards,

Andreas
06-06-2010, 03:55 PM
SharpMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoneage

I have that stone...and many others :)

It's the biggest one in the enclosed picture. I often use it after the Nani 10 000 and I really like the "crispy" edge that this hone leaves on my razors. I have a dark thick and coarse beard... so I think it's a cheap and good finisher...BUT many of them have a lot of pyrite inclusions, so be sure that you get a nice "clean" one.

if you like to buy one of these I can recomend you to contact Herr Baumgärtner, at www.baumi-shop.de you can send an e-mail directly to him at: holzkaestchen@yahoo.de he speaks only german, but you can use google to translate...but keep your sentences very short....otherwise you'll get a very funny german language:rofl2:

Kind regards,

Andreas

Hi Andreas,

Thanks for the reply.

I live in the Netherlands and you know that Dutch people always
know a little German.

Interesting that you write about using the stone after Naniwa
10000 SS. Could you tell me how the hone feels? Hard,soft, smooth
etc..

Thank you in advance.

Sharpman
06-06-2010, 04:16 PM
Stoneage

The hone feels quite smooth but the feed back is not as good as a coticule or a Nani 12 000. It's ok anyway...:)

Mine needed to be lapped, but because is soft it took max 5 minutes to do that. I used Norton 320 grit wetpaper on a glas plate.

It produces slurry quite fast but I've used it only with water as a finishing stone so I don't know how it behaves with slurry.

I tried it after both the 8000 and the 10000 Naniwa...the edge was better after the 10000, sharper and smoother.

Anyway I like the edges coming from this hone :)
07-19-2011, 04:37 PM
Caydel

Has anyone else tried these stones? I'd love to hear some more feedback about them as I am considering getting one.
07-19-2011, 04:47 PM
mainaman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caydel

Has anyone else tried these stones? I'd love to hear some more feedback about them as I am considering getting one.

yes mine was ~8k level
07-19-2011, 05:57 PM
Lesslemming

If there is help needed translating a request into german, I can help you with that.
I live in Germany and gladly translate for you. Just shoot me PM
07-20-2011, 12:07 AM
Disburden

The one I have is 6-8K level and not nearly as good as the little ones you can get in the wooden box on Ebay for about 80-100USD.
07-20-2011, 05:49 AM
mrsell63

Are these stones similar to the Escher/Thuringian stones sold by Timber Tools in Ontario CA?

I made the mistake of buying one of these stones several years ago.

I have since found that there is nothing like a genuine Escher from a reputable source.
07-21-2011, 06:04 PM
docholiday

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsell63

Are these stones similar to the Escher/Thuringian stones sold by Timber Tools in Ontario CA?

I made the mistake of buying one of these stones several years ago.

I have since found that there is nothing like a genuine Escher from a reputable source.

They apear strongly to be from the same German company: Müller Schleiftechnik -MST-
As mentioned above by Oldengaerde they aren't Thüringians!!!
You may read more in this thread:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...her-hones.html