Okay so I must've finally found a good Barber Hone (Bhone) A Raven. Did the 5 laps on a failing edge and whodathunkit. It worked! I am well pleaed that I must no longer feel you b hone fans to be nostalgic propagandist.

It's not really a very smooth feeling hone; i used it with water. I may try 5 more to see what's what on the shave/after a few straps. And then give it a large count on linen next day