Right there where you say that you did not learn them
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Right there I said that I have used good edges off these hones, I never said I mastered them. I don't have to learn to use a hone to know how an edge shaves off it, but you know that very well. This is my last post to this topic, because your posts goal are to prove your thought that I am inexperienced/stupid/young or whatever, this hasn't anything to do with this topic.
Seems this thread is about played out so I am closing it.