cut cloth by accident

Evening gents... so there was a little accident. And i need to cut shin part of family member's jeans. Happened while I was shaving; so guess what was used to cut the jeans =D... 5/8 stainless steel Dovo. Professionally horned (got it from one of the online vendors) ..pix attached
Now question is when i came back to finish my shave. The SR would was just slipping off my face. Cant be as I still have my side burns to fix (i.e had grown beard there). Finished w/ Dorko SR.
Today I tried to put it a grind on 20-40-60 on Norton 4k-8k-15k (shapton) and then on leather about 40X patterns and another 20-30X on cloth side.
Have not shaved back with it. But towards the heel of SR feel a even so little bump (i.e. my nail gets stuck in the metal just stopped short of hitting the bevel).
How badly have i done a piece of work on this =D ...any suggestion to fix this would be appreciated. I was lookin in the FAQ section on fixing the hairline bends in SR's but could not find it.

I'm having a hard time following what actually happened. If you did a thumbnail test, the razor should be rehoned and stropped. Strop on leather after cloth.

If you nicked the razor, then re-honing is required.

If you used a professionally honed razor to shorten someone's jeans you should re-evaluate the fragility of an edge and get it re- honed. Honestly, if you cut someone's jeans with a razor I had honed I'd be a little disappointed.

Actually if you with cut jeans with your straight razor, you should go stand in a corner, for a long time!

You may have discovered something, the HCT. That's the Hanging Cloth Test. Congratulations!

=D i use to be kicked out in convent by the fine nuns n padres ^_^ ...seems those days have transcended to my late 20s now.
To the matters at hand then... attached pix of what I'm trying to say (I'm lookin for this in FAQ's) but could not find the pix)...the small red bending something like a wire bend. Is what i think has happened to this SR.
Like it too as I do not have to baby sit this one w/ mineral oil after shave. Dry in sun and off it goes to storage.

**sobs and puts his hands to the ears n turns to corner outside the class** (and admires MISS mental image of a fine lady here in nun clothing)

Go back to the 4k side of the Norton and stay with it until you can shave arm hair with the entire edge. That will mean you've reestablished a bevel. Then, and only then, should you move up to a higher grit.

Nice play Shakespeare!!

I would kill the edge with a few strokes with the blade perpendicular to a 325. Then I would establish the bevel with a 325 & 1000. Finally I would hone with the 4000/8000.

In my opinion any short cut will just be a waste of time.

A blade should never be perpendicular to anything.

Ok, do NOT do this please. The only time you should be bread knifing a razor on a DMT 325 grit is if you bought an old blade somewhere that had big chips in it. That is the ONLY time I would do this. You do not need to use a 325 on a dull razor, ever. You can cause a whole series of serious damage this way, including a split or crack from the edge to the spine (or somewhere in between) if you don't know what you're doing.

All you need to do is go to the 1K level and reset the bevel which may take about ten minutes at the most if your strokes are correct. Use back and forth strokes, X strokes, circles, etc. Water should move up the entire edge of the razor. Once you can shave arm hair at skin level, move to the 4K level and so on.

Have you honed a razor before?


Also why would you cut something with your straight razor?

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Originally Posted by TheFlyFishingGuy

Nice play Shakespeare!!

I would kill the edge with a few strokes with the blade perpendicular to a 325. Then I would establish the bevel with a 325 & 1000. Finally I would hone with the 4000/8000.

In my opinion any short cut will just be a waste of time.

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I wanted to clarify some things I made in this post as I wasn't trying to offend anyone but unintentionally did.

When I say please don't bread knife a razor on a DMT 325 because it's become dull (running through denim as example) I meant that it's going to cause you a lot more problems than just a dull razor. Bread knifing is an extreme to fix a severe problem (big visible chips on the razor, etc). That's why in Glen's video he says that this is a last resort over and over again.

A razor that is dull from improper stropping, running on denim, etc, can be honed out on the 1K level and have the bevel set. It may take you 10-30 minutes but it's not something that needs fixing by grinding an edge into a diamond plate. Some people like to dull razors on glass before honing, seen on Coticule.be, I don't like doing this but that is way less severe than a diamond plate as it only dulls the very edge of the razor which is known as killing the edge. A DMT 325 plate wouldn't just kill an edge but take the bevel from something near a < shape to something that is most extreme and flat like this [. Now you have a lot more than just a dull edge to fix but the whole flat plane of the bevel to reshape, that's going to take a lot more time.

Also if someone has never ground their edge into a DMT 325 before be aware, please, that you can also crack the blade of the razor unintentionally by torquing your hand even slightly by mistake. That is just one problem that can happen, there's about 20 more you can run into also.

My question in my last post of "have you ever honed a razor before" Was not geared towards you, Flyfishingguy, but to the original poster. I was asking if he had experience so we knew how much advice was needed to help him out. That wasn't clear by me, so as mentioned in our PM, I wasn't trying to insult you.

Chips that are so big is the only time I would bread knife a razor, like this maybe, but I've worked on bigger the only time I did this:
Antique Straight Razor Clauss & Box | eBay

I never buy new razors, I only buy junkers I find on ebay or in the antique shops. All but one of them in the past two years has needed someone lower than a 1k level stone to reset the bevel...

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Originally Posted by Disburden

Ok, do NOT do this please. The only time you should be bread knifing a razor on a DMT 325 grit is if you bought an old blade somewhere that had big chips in it. That is the ONLY time I would do this. You do not need to use a 325 on a dull razor, ever. You can cause a whole series of serious damage this way, including a split or crack from the edge to the spine (or somewhere in between) if you don't know what you're doing.

All you need to do is go to the 1K level and reset the bevel which may take about ten minutes at the most if your strokes are correct. Use back and forth strokes, X strokes, circles, etc. Water should move up the entire edge of the razor. Once you can shave arm hair at skin level, move to the 4K level and so on.

Have you honed a razor before?


Also why would you cut something with your straight razor?

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Get the razor re honed.

TY... i will stick with the 1K route. seems easier. if i do a 325. Alrdy its at 5/8...and stainless steel. I dont have time or patience to deal w/ that. Probly just take the scales n blade would have been a total loss to me. Not gonna take that route.

What, are you two feet tall? how did you cut their shin? I don't want to see on the news that there is a hobbit running around assaulting people with st8ts..... You will give us a bad name.

another prospective to look at::: movie Pearl Harbor i think they also use SR to cut clothing in the carnage scene. But I used it on someone's jeans. The person was layin down...and well was bleeding. On the "happy note" not a designer jeans. Wrangler (why i say that as Diesel denim ranges 195-380 usd). Then it would be break even.
SR was around 280.

Thanks again for the 4K advice...its stainless steel i think mite take more than just 10 mins but will get it done. =D
Hobbit are fun I like more of the dragon riders =D (Chapel joke "come on brother you can let us in on the brotherly love part 4" LOLLL)...only reason i keep LOTR away on boys nite and def GO OUT...LOL

I still don't understand at all what happened......

OK! Straight razors as utility knives. They work really well for a very short period of time. I have some vintage blades that have problems preventing their use on a face that I have honed out and use around the shop to cut things like paper, packing tape, bubble wrap, and even leather. They don't get used on skin. Use your Dovo if you like but you will have problems with it afterwards when face shaving. I recommend expensive, new straight razors for face only but do what you like as it's your razor. How'd the jeans come out?

From the OP's post, It sounds like the cutting of jeans was an emergency situation (at least I hope it was) I'm no honer so if it was me id be sending it off to lynn or GGsixgun to be honed professionally.... but thats just me :)

My...this is an interesting thread...