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What are you experiences with this credit card size plate. I bought one for the express purpose of generating slurry from the hone I'm using, (in lieu of a tomo or slurry stone or even DMT)
I have a full set of DMTs, including a well worn 325. This thing just seems so perfect for the task, and easy to use. I couldn't resist. Plus, it's Atoma. It's supposed to be better, right....? Does anyone use these small 2x3 pieces, mounted on Granite....?
I'm curious about the Atoma plates too. I didn't know they made a small one for slurry. I've heard good things about them but haven't gotten one yet.
zib, don't worry, you will like it, really, Atomas are worth their price. I have used almost 10 DMTs, and they are no match for an Atoma plate, not for me at least. I was always searching for something better than my DMTs, and since I have bought my Atoma I sold everything, and I am as happy now as I could.
Jimmy,Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyHAD
Atoma makes full size only, they are cut here in US and sold as slurry stones.
Thanks for that Mainaman - I have only ever had the normal sized ones and wondered what these smaller ones were.
I cannot imagine these would not be as good as their larger-sized parents for making slurry. No good for lapping of course, but that was not your intent.
James.
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Originally Posted by Jimbo
James,
Why would they not be as good for slurry making? I'm curious, smaller surface area? The reason I ask is, I can still return it.
These smaller Atoma's remind me of the credit card size DMT's, which some guys use for slurry making too. This is exactly why I made this post. I'd love to hear from someone who actually has one...
Sorry, I didn't word it very well. I mean that I think the smaller size should be just as good as the larger one for making slurry.
James.
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Originally Posted by Jimbo
I'll give it a go. I actually have plenty of time to play around with it. The vendor was very willing to work with me after I expressed my concerns. I had no idea these were cut. I was under the impression Atoma made small size hones, just like DMT. I have 4 full size DMT plates. When they wear out, or become unusable, I'll spring for the Atoma plates. They do seem to be superior to DMT. This little guy looks perfect for slurrying vs the Credit card size DMT's. Then again, it could well be Apples and Oranges, like everything else in this hobby...YMMV.....
You could imagine my surprise when I opened the box up. Kinda like getting an ugly sweater for Christmas.....:dropjaw:
Gee, I feel left out. What's an Atoma?
It's another brand of diamond plate - slightly different construction to the DMTQuote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
They were talked about on So Yama-you know what's site a few years ago. Made in Japan, they were hard to find on this side of the pond back then. More expensive than the dia-sharp dmt. I heard they were better but never did buy one. Then they changed from a solid plate with the diamonds impregnated, like the dmt and the shapton, to a thin sheet with double faced tape to hold it on to a plate. Replace as needed. That kind of turned me off so I never did get one.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebigspendur
Sorry to ressurecting an old thread, but does anyone know where a guy could get one of the 2x3 plates? I'm not having much luck with the google.
You could just buy one of the small sheets and stick it to whatever substrate you want:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thisisclog
Tsuboman Atoma 'paper'. : Tools from Japan, Japanese woodworking tools direct from Japan.
Lee Valley carries the full size plates...Quote:
Originally Posted by Thisisclog
Lee Valley Tools - Important Announcement
And if you happen to be within the EU; ATOMA Diamantschleifsteine
Thanks. :)
So my best option is to buy a full size and cut it down?
You can cut the sheets as described in this link:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thisisclog
Tsuboman Atoma 'paper'. : Tools from Japan, Japanese woodworking tools direct from Japan.
I wouldn't go cutting down a plate.
Just don't go fetch your wife's sewing scissors, I cut up some DMT shims with one and it's not quite like before.
Go buy the cheapest metal one you can find.
I was thinking maybe using a water jet to cut it.
I'm curious Jon, why do you want it cut down rather than just having the full size?
I still think it's a bad idea. The abrasive strip is only held to the plate by 3 strips of tape.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thisisclog
I think what's left over will be somewhat compromised.
Fair enough. I wanted it more for slurriyng than lapping.
I'm with onimaru, not sure it will work.
Wouldn't there be a possibility that the film just gets torn off?
Yesterday I "cut" a piece off a DMT, not with shears but I scraped a line in the backing and flexed it, it broke off clean and straight, both pieces still flat.
With shears they tend to be twisted and distorted.
Not that the plate would be heavy in absolute terms, but relative to the other tools of the trade, a lapping plate seems heavy and bulky. I guess i just got fixated on the little plate. I'll end up at Lee Valley sooner or later and just get the big one.
I find it a great idea to get a 2x3" piece of atoma 1200 grit. The tape is not a serious matter. Since the factory offers diamond sheets, with some asking I don't think they'll deny supplying a few more pieces of tape. In the worst case, you can get the base and the sheet separately, and, between the layers of tape you can spread some epoxy. Clap it on a flat surface, wait to harden and it's ready.
For a stone that has been lapped flat to 200-300-400 grit, I find the 8x3" stone to be unnecessarily big stone. A small piece can do as good job for removing the scratches from the previous lapping media. It is useful for sharpening, but for lapping, I would also prefer a smaller and cheaper piece. And, for slurry making, works as good.
Would the double tape work on a piece of glass? Easier to cut and if the glass is thick enough, it would feel good in the hands for a small slury stone and as long as it's polish on all sides (dremmel) it would not cut skin.
Compared to a similar size DMT the Atoma is light as a feather . The plate is aluminium not steel + you will have the added bonus of keeping your stones flat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thisisclog
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Originally Posted by onimaru55
I did not know that, I thought it was as heavy as a DMT. I guess I will get the full size.
As onimari said, aluminium slab instead of a steel slab.
I use atomas almost 3 times a week, sometimes I use it for slurry making and sometimes I use it for bevelsetting. It is a really nice product..