First stone Nayayama Kiita 6 7/8 (174mm) long 3 1/4 in. (82.5mm) wide and 1 1/2 (38mm) thick
Second stone Nayayama Asagi 5 7/8 (148mm) long 3 1/2 (88mm) wide and 1 3/16 (30mm) thick
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First stone Nayayama Kiita 6 7/8 (174mm) long 3 1/4 in. (82.5mm) wide and 1 1/2 (38mm) thick
Second stone Nayayama Asagi 5 7/8 (148mm) long 3 1/2 (88mm) wide and 1 3/16 (30mm) thick
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And the rest
Very nice stones!! I am just getting into honing with my little Shoubudani jnat & have found it a joy to hone with. Maybe some day I can get a bigger stone like one of these!!
How are you going to use them, tomo naguras, diamond?
tomo naguras i like to keep the surface on my stones scratch free
Are the Jnats best in class as finishers?
Well, my Jnats are the best finishers I've got or tried, but that is not to say there aren't other rocks out there as good or maybe better. I've not tried it, but there are people talking about this Guacamole 20K synthetic which is apparently very good (though pricey).
As an overall comment though, I'd say that of the naturals available the Jnats would come out on top though one has to be careful to ensure you get what you pay for and it suits your needs. A good, reliable vendor is important - the prices are such that there can be a lot of "counterfeit" rocks.
James.
Well,
I just checked Jnat prices and call E911 as I thought I`m getting heart attack :-)
Next step it to win PowerBall (or maybe already did) and then I can get set of Jnats. For now, looks Like I have to stick to my few Thuri, LI and WoA... and you owners of Jnats please let us know all about this stones. as they look like a are very interesting and nice stones to work with.
Sweet stones! Use them well!
I love my jnats too, super stones!
Never tried to hone on Guacamole, have to make some and try! :)
Nice chubby J-nats. Let us know how they perform. Thanks for sharing
MIke
My best jnat is a Nakayama Maruichi Asagi that I got from Old_School. Does anyone know what ever happened to him? He dropped off my radar sometime ago.
Second best jnat is an Asagi I got from Sham. Third best is Ozuku Sunashi Suita from Maksim. All three work very well.
My Guacamole 20k is in the mail. I couldn't resist the hype.
Jerry
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Hello Guys !
I love my new stone, a nakayama LV5, amazing finish.
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For you JNAT guys,This stone was given to me by a very old japanese friend,It belonged to her father who was a surgeon and she said it was used the sharpen his scalpel blades,he died when we nuked Hiroshima.
I believe it is a Naka Kiita,your thoghts? has some beautifull pink striations.
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Just wanted to throw mine up for fun and to share!
Comments and info on it would be great.
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I was told that it's a Nakayama Maruichi and the color looks like kiita/asagi to me.. blue spot? It's as good if not better than my Ozuku Mizu Asagi and I enjoy the size for smilers!
Would it be safe to call it Kiita Asagi Kan(for the rings)
One of mine...
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My photo skills is like a beaver on crack but I try...
I forgot, sorry!
It's an Tosho S.2 folding Kamisori, don't know much about it other than it feels like an ax and shaves good!
Brooksie
You are on the right track, but Elibul I just don't see the kiita yellow color.
Brooksie, you can see in you stone that the asagi and kiita are both from the tomae strata, your stones shares some of the transition between the asagi to kiita. Not fully yellow and a sort of kan color instead. The asagi is a gray/green/blue tomae stone, the kiita is a yellow tomae stone. A kiita stone will provide a yellow slurry, the asagi a white slurry that can have tints of yellow but will generally dry white.
There are 48 different tomae layers or stratas in the mines of Yamashiro, not every layer has kiita and in fact kiita is one of the rarer occurances in the mines. Kiita is a yellow stone and in some tomae layers are other types of color stones as you can see in the photos. A gray type of tomae stone with some rust/ocher/yellow is not a kiita stone and an asagi stone that has a hint of yellow in the slurry is not a kiita.
The asagi stones called Mizu Asagi are usually blue or with an under tone of blue. Mizu means water but water can be clear in a glass but green or blue in a lake or ocean so this term is very broad. The lovely asagi stones that are green with hints of blue and yellow are mineral rich and the yellow and blue minerals optically mix in our eye to make green much like the dot matrix is used in 3 color (4 color if you count the black) offset printing where your eye blends the 3 color to make various colors including yellow and blue to make green.
All of these unique color stones are becoming more and more rare on the market, there are lots of gray stones still left in storage because they were not regarded as easy to use, hence the "for experts only" designation. The color stones were always the easiest to use and scarce, so now there are becoming even harder to find.
Sorry to disappoint anyone who thinks that a bit of kan/rust looks like a kiita stone, but a kiita really has to be all yellow of various shades and intensities of yellow or what they call in Japan "tomago", egg color.
Alx
well thats interesting Alx ,i though any stone that was yellow was a kitta and i though kan meant rings so what would you call my stone ?
I tried to understand it all once. I thought I was close, then someone else would say something else and I'd get all confused again.
Nowadays I just contact my preferred seller and say "I need a stone that does this, that, and the other." I get shown a few alternatives, we talk about their properties (my guy uses the ones he sells, generally, or lets you try them out) and then discuss prices.
Variations in naturals mean that knowledge of the strata, mine, colour etc might not mean as much as some people think they do. Like I said, I just own up to the fact that I don't have a clue and try before I buy. I know that may not be possible for everyone, but to be perfectly frank if someone wants Jnat money off me, they'd better at least have a full no questions asked returns policy.
James.
You are right, kan means rings and they are usually darker against a light ground like B's stone. Your tomae stone has the yake effect, a toasted light brown color that when darker can scratch the hard steel. The yake does not show up on every photo so I assume it is light and therefore not toxic. Both of your stones I would simply refer to as tomae strata stones. The same goes for the stones in the bottom photo on my page Color Stones, these would be called kiita. Kiita stones in the best forms have a uniform homogeneous color throughout the whole stone from front to back including all of the interior.
Alx
I've tried one almost gold colored Kiita but i didn't have the gold bar to trade for it, prices of those rocks are high to say the least.
ok thanks alx always enjoy leaning from some of the more experienced members when it come to j-nats. so i have learned you cant call a stone a kitta unless its a complete yellow color. i have yake written down as a burnt brown/dark golden streaks